Great recording Jim, I have a resident 30 also for the winter months but a
bloody noisy backdrop of a freeway, Nice one!
Martyn :)
Martyn Stewart
Bird and Animal Sounds Digitally Recorded at:
http://www.naturesound.org
N47.65543 W121.98428
Redmond. Washington. USA
Make every Garden a wildlife Habitat!
When the animals come to us,
Asking for our help,
Will we know what they are saying?
When the plants speak to us
In their delicate, beautiful language,
Will we be able to answer them?
When the planet herself
Sings to us in our dreams,
Will we be able to wake ourselves, and act?
-Gary Lawless
-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Morgan
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 7:44 AM
To:
Subject: [Nature Recordists] Double-crested Cormorants
Hi everyone,
Here is a sound that I hardly ever hear. It is a group of about 40
Double-crested Cormorants 300 feet away. Recorded with my trusty Telinga
twin science and a Sony MZ-R50 recorder.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/naturerecordists/files/0087-2%2042-3%20Double=
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crested%20Corm%20%20lynx%20Lk%20R6%20mp3.mp3
Jim
Jim Morgan
Acting Moderator
Nature Recordists e-mail group
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/naturerecordists
"Microphones are not ears,
Loudspeakers are not birds,
A listening room is not nature."
Klas Strandberg
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>From Tue Mar 8 18:27:21 2005
Message: 20
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 10:12:27 -0500
From: Curt Olson <>
Subject: Re: Amazing pictures from Metafilter
An interesting thread about animal responses vs. human responses! The
brilliant thinker C.S. Lewis discussed this briefly in his little book
"The Problem of Pain." He speculates that while animals may experience
many of the same physical/chemical sensations humans do, they lack
sufficient self awareness and sense of time passing to be able to
conclude "I am in pain," "I have lost my mate," etc. This would support
what others have cautioned us here about projecting human emotional
responses onto animals.
Incidentally, I am new to this list, so I'll introduce myself. I'm a
professional audio engineer/producer located in Minneapolis/St. Paul,
Minnesota, USA. My "bread and butter" work is nationally syndicated
radio programing, speech-based audio projects, music for media and
studio album production. My interest in nature recording is primarily
personal -- to capture and extend some of my outdoor excursions,
usually on public lands in far northern Minnesota. My outdoor recording
rig is a Sony TCD-D7 DAT recorder fed by a pair of Sure Beta 58
microphones in an ORTF configuration. The Sony's pre-amps are noisy,
but I accept that trade-off in the interest of light weight and
simplicity. Some may be tempted to laugh at my mic selection, but I
arrived at it after extensive testing with a number of possible choices
including AT stereo mics, Crown PZMs, high-end AKG and Neumann
condensers in various XY, MS, ORTF, spaced and "binaural" arrays. In
every way, I've found the Beta 58s to be possibly the best-kept secret
in the microphone world, and the ORTF array to give me the best
compromise between stereo imagery and mono compatibility for field
recording. YMMV.
I tend to stay away from MS due to off-axis "smearing" of the sound
source (on the VERTICAL axis). I tend to stay away from compressed
audio formats since much of my work gets transcoded multiple times
downstream from me. I've never used a reflector as my interests lean
more toward stereo soundscapes rather than capturing isolated sound
sources.
Now you know...
Curt Olson
Track Seventeen Productions, Inc.
Minneapolis, Minnesota
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>From Tue Mar 8 18:27:21 2005
Message: 21
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 12:06:15 -0400
From: Lang Elliott <>
Subject: Re: Amazing pictures from Metafilter
Curt:
I used ORTF for several years before I obtained and SASS and modified it fo=
r
use with MKH 20 mikes. I like ORTF because it maintains arrival time
differences and simulates binaural to some degree through the use of
cardioid mikes.
For those in the group who don't know what ORTF is about, check out the
following article by Bruce Bartlett of Crown. Scroll down to the "Near
Coincident" section and you'll get an explanation:
http://www.tape.com/Bartlett_Articles/stereo_microphone_techniques.html
Lang
An interesting thread about animal responses vs. human responses! The
brilliant thinker C.S. Lewis discussed this briefly in his little book
"The Problem of Pain." He speculates that while animals may experience
many of the same physical/chemical sensations humans do, they lack
sufficient self awareness and sense of time passing to be able to
conclude "I am in pain," "I have lost my mate," etc. This would support
what others have cautioned us here about projecting human emotional
responses onto animals.
Incidentally, I am new to this list, so I'll introduce myself. I'm a
professional audio engineer/producer located in Minneapolis/St. Paul,
Minnesota, USA. My "bread and butter" work is nationally syndicated
radio programing, speech-based audio projects, music for media and
studio album production. My interest in nature recording is primarily
personal -- to capture and extend some of my outdoor excursions,
usually on public lands in far northern Minnesota. My outdoor recording
rig is a Sony TCD-D7 DAT recorder fed by a pair of Sure Beta 58
microphones in an ORTF configuration. The Sony's pre-amps are noisy,
but I accept that trade-off in the interest of light weight and
simplicity. Some may be tempted to laugh at my mic selection, but I
arrived at it after extensive testing with a number of possible choices
including AT stereo mics, Crown PZMs, high-end AKG and Neumann
condensers in various XY, MS, ORTF, spaced and "binaural" arrays. In
every way, I've found the Beta 58s to be possibly the best-kept secret
in the microphone world, and the ORTF array to give me the best
compromise between stereo imagery and mono compatibility for field
recording. YMMV.
I tend to stay away from MS due to off-axis "smearing" of the sound
source (on the VERTICAL axis). I tend to stay away from compressed
audio formats since much of my work gets transcoded multiple times
downstream from me. I've never used a reflector as my interests lean
more toward stereo soundscapes rather than capturing isolated sound
sources.
Now you know...
Curt Olson
Track Seventeen Productions, Inc.
Minneapolis, Minnesota
"Microphones are not ears,
Loudspeakers are not birds,
A listening room is not nature."
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