Hi Martyn
The siskin call may have suffered a bit due to recording technique &
equipment (it was done a few years back)...they do get a lot more emphatic
than that, but the pattern is much the same...I just grabbed the first
example that I ran across.
I'd have to check my records to be certain, but I believe both the hermit
thrush and siskin were recorded on the west side of the rockies in north
central BC (Prince George area). Dialects of some birds vary considerably
from there to here (northeastern BC, east of Rockies) but these two seem
consistent.
I'd agree with Barb's comment on redpolls (although I don't think I've ever
heard a redpoll 'weeee' call as harsh or emphatic as a siskin)..but since
redpolls are not a candidate in your area, I didn't include it. As for
goldfinch, we (sadly) don't get them around here!
If I can find some time, I'll try to dig up a ruby-crowned kinglet example.
That was my (very) tentative guess for mystery species number 2
Mark Phinney
on 4/17/04 8:19 PM, Martyn Stewart at wrote:
> I e-mailed here back Mark and said I believe it maybe a pine siskin, I also
> said a it could be a Hermit thrush with your description, she also feels its
> most probably a pine siskin because of the "flock" numbers she saw, I must
> admit, your hermit thrush call is much more like the towhee "weeeeeeee" call
> but your siskin call is a lot weaker than what I hear here! Funny dialects
> that's all! I did post her a siskin call I made here, I will post her the
> hermit thrush too though....
> I still have no idea of the second description?
> Are those calls you posted local to you?
>
> Regards
>
> Martyn
>
> Martyn Stewart
> Bird and Animal Sounds Digitally Recorded at:
> http://www.naturesound.org
> N47.65543 W121.98428
> Redmond. Washington. USA
> Make every Garden a wildlife Habitat!
>
> The Spring is cum
> The grass is riz
> I wonder where the birdies is?
>
> The birdies on the wing!
> Nah, that's absoid
> D' wing is on d' boid!
> .........................
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: M, J, & V Phinney
> Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2004 8:09 PM
> To:
> Subject: Re: [Nature Recordists] Bird ID Wanted
>
> Hi Martyn (& others)
>
> I posted a very brief sample of the hermit thrush and siskin calls on the
> group site http://groups.yahoo.com/group/naturerecordists/files/
>
> Not sure whether you can copy these to your contact who was wondering about
> call id, but it might help solve one of the mysteries.
>
> I get this sort of thing a lot....description of a bird or a sound and
> someone trying to relay it to determine an ID....I'm the first to admit that
> I'm terrible at interpreting someone else's description...it never seems to
> be quite the way I'd describe it!
>
>
> Mark Phinney
>
>
>
>
> on 4/16/04 2:37 PM, Martyn Stewart at wrote:
>
>> Thanks Mark, it is so hard to ID a sound when you do not hear it!!!
>> I believe the first sound is that of A Pine Siskin, the second I have no
>> clue!! I think a Pine siskin because we have the WEEEEEEEEEEE calls here
> and
>> lots of birds in the canopy, the second bird is anyone's guess, I do have
> a
>> Hermit thrush song & call, I'm not so sure, I wish these people would
> spend
>> a bit more time with binoculars and get a more positive ID, i.e.,
> coloration
>> etc...
>>
>> Martyn :)
>>
>> Martyn Stewart
>> Bird and Animal Sounds Digitally Recorded at:
>> http://www.naturesound.org
>> N47.65543 W121.98428
>> Redmond. Washington. USA
>> Make every Garden a wildlife Habitat!
>>
>> The Spring is cum
>> The grass is riz
>> I wonder where the birdies is?
>>
>> The birdies on the wing!
>> Nah, that's absoid
>> D' wing is on d' boid!
>> .........................
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: M, J, & V Phinney
>> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 7:07 AM
>> To:
>> Subject: Re: [Nature Recordists] Bird ID Wanted
>>
>> #1 sounds like it might be the 'rreeeee' call of a hermit thrush. If I get
>> the time I can post a sample later on.
>>
>> Not sure about #2......ruby crowned kinglet is a possibility, but without
>> hearing it.....well, you know...
>>
>>
>> Mark Phinney
>>
>>
>>
>> on 4/15/04 9:01 PM, Martyn Stewart at wrote:
>>
>>> A lady writes this to me....
>>>
>>> Here is a sound that maybe the birders on this group may be able to
>>> identify?
>>>
>>>
>>> <I've heard a couple of unfamiliar calls in my ramblings through Seward
>> Park
>>> the last week or so. Hoping you might be able to help me here.
>>>
>>> 1. A whining adolescent "whyyyy?" similar to the Spotted Towhee, but
>> higher
>>> in pitch and lighter in overall quality, coming from the mid canopy. I
> can
>>> see smallish silhouettes flitting around up there, but haven't yet gotten
>> a
>>> good look.
>>>
>>> 2. "weeeep? pollyputthekettleon?" high and thin, coming from the mid to
>>> upper canopy. The "pollyputhekettleon" starts high, drops in pitch
> through
>>> "llyputthekettle" and rises in inflection on "on". On this one I've not
>> even
>>> seen movement>
>>>
>>>
>>> This is Washington State, outside Seattle in a park setting surrounded by
>>> Lake Washington.....
>>>
>>> Martyn
>>>
>>>
>>>
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