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Re: surround comment

Subject: Re: surround comment
From: "Rich Peet" <>
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 00:52:49 -0000
I'll go back to school for awhile.  I am lost for a little while.
This stuff is new and different for me.
I just want to find the best and cheapest solution to play good 4
channel on a cheap dvd playback system.

Rich Peet




--- In  Wild Sanctuary <>
wrote:
> Not really, Rich. In our mixes, we employ our own encoding tech
that
> will decode surround in all known formats. Check any of our current
> 20 CDs, for example.
>
> Bernie Krause
>
> >I understood that sacd was out of the question for a private
> >recordist.  I thought we were restricted to dolby tech. for the
> >little guy?
> >
> >Rich Peet
> >
> >--- In  "Greg Weddig"
<>
> >wrote:
> >>  I have a short response to that, DVD-Audio format or SACD.
> >>  Multichannel formats that can reproduce high resolution
multichannel
> >>  sound, with or without lossless compression.
> >>  The encoding software is rather expensive and the hardware is
> >slightly
> >>  esoteric at the moment but with more DVD players supporting
> >>  multiformat discs, I think this will change and prices will
drop.
> >>
> >>  --greg
> >>
> >>
> >>  --- In  "Rich Peet"
<>
> >>  wrote:
> >>  > Well, ya, the big guy is severly low-passed in mp3.  But this
> >bird is
> >>  > like that.  Check out the side by side of the wave vs the mp3
> >that I
> >>  > mixed within one wave file.
> >>  >
> >>  > 350 kb download at:
> >>  > http://home.comcast.net/~richpeet/GHO.wav
> >>  >
> >>  > My feelings on Surround should have been based as a question.
> >>  > This stuff is so mixed with sales hype that to figure out how
to
> >work
> >>  > with it is really hard.
> >>  >
> >>  > I got into trouble reading at:
> >>  >
>
>http://www.dolby.com/professional/Support/tech.overview.html#DolbyDig
i
> >>  > tal
> >>  >
> >>  > It appears that you can not have 4 channels of 10khz range
birds
> >>  > singing at the same time and cover them with full bit depth.
That
> >was
> >>  > the sparrow comment. The thunder comment is probably workable
> >with
> >>  > hours of post.  When a signal uses both the areas above and
below
> >the
> >>  > lfe channel the sums and sides appear to be very hard to work
> >with.
> >>  > Maybe it can be done with a lot of work.  It appears that the
> >rear
> >>  > surround channels were put there for sound reinforcement and
not
> >to
> >>  > be used as full distinct channels.
> >>  >
> >>  > I will continue to educate myself and work in full 4 channel
but
> >>  > geeze Dan do you have a magic decoder ring that can tell us if
> >this
> >>  > tech will work for us if we want full four channel with high
bit
> >>  > depth?
> >>  >
> >>  > Rich Peet
> >>  >
> >>  > --- In  Dan Dugan <>
> >wrote:
> >>  > > Rich Peet, you wrote:
> >>  > >
> >>  > > >Now with GHOW's you can get by with a tiny mp3 file
because of
> >>  > those
> >>  > > >nice low notes.
> >>  > > >
> >>  > > ><20 kb download
> >>  > > >http://home.comcast.net/~richpeet/GHO1.mp3
> >>  > >
> >>  > > Yeah, but it sounds low-passed...
> >>  > >
> >>  > > >But if my reading is right you can not even put a sparrow
or
> >>  > thunder
> >>  > > >on the surround channels of dolby 5.1.  Looks like home
> >theator
> >>  > will
> >>  > > >not be our future format.
> >>  > >
> >>  > > Please explain.
> >>  > >
> >>  > > -Dan Dugan
> >
> >
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