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RE: Soundscapes beyond bird and frog

Subject: RE: Soundscapes beyond bird and frog
From: Wild Sanctuary <>
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 10:29:38 -0700
I think Doug's about to post it, Martyn. Enjoy it.

Bernie

>That's fantastic Bernie, I actually read about you doing that in the
>Electric Musician or some magazine like that, I bought the subject up at
>the Nature Sound Society field workshop the other day and asked if
>anyone had heard it! you must have been getting the vibes :) Your work
>is fascinating mate and your book, "Wildsoundscapes" is a must for
>everybody connected to nature recording. I would love to hear it mate,
>can I put it up on my website with a link to yours and your book?
>Cheers mate.
>
>Martyn
>
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: Wild Sanctuary 
>Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 6:28 AM
>To: 
>Subject: [Nature Recordists] Soundscapes beyond bird and frog
>
>
>Yo Martyn,
>
>I've even got a tree... "singing!" Can't set it up on my web site yet
>('cause  I'm illiterate in that regard) but can send you (and/or
>others) an MP3 sample on request. As mentioned in my book, "Wild
>Soundscapes," it was recoreded because we were recording bats and our
>bat detector was picking up an unusual constant signal that got
>stronger as we approached a particular cottonwood tree. We drilled a
>small hole in the trunk, inserted an instrumentation hydrophone (B&K
>4183) and, with an instrumentation recorder, captured the 70kHz
>signal. When back in the lab, slowed it up by a factor of 7, and got
>the cells of the xylem and phloem as they popped from excess osmotic
>pressure (apparently). Hence, a rare moment of rhythm.
>
>Bernie
>
>Wild Sanctuary, Inc.
>P. O. Box 536
>Glen Ellen, CA 95442
>707-996-6677 tel
>707-996-0280 fax
>http://www.wildsanctuary.com
>
>>OK you lot, you have actually got this all wrong! Nuthatch sounds in
>>Yuba Pass? Leaves blowing in the trees? I knew you all were not
>>listening to what Doug was talking about last Friday night, the sounds
>>you heard were one of an escaped Lyrebird, I told you these buggers
>were
>>clever! It was actually a Lyrebird that was sitting in my place for 3
>>days!!!
>>I think Rudy, Bernie, Doug and Walt has said it all in these few
>e-mails
>>and I certainly endorse what Doug said about not thinking we are
>>superior! the beauty about what we all do and love is as important as
>>the next guy, we are all part of a very important chain and that is the
>>chain of nature recording, whether you ID a bird, insect, frog or a
>leaf
>>on a tree, its the very thing that gets us out there and do what we do.
>>What I do try to do, is log down everything I hear and see, if its an
>>insect, I want to ID it, if its a frog or a toad, I'm too curious to
>not
>>know, and Rudy, I have a degree in Horticulture & botany for which is
>my
>>trade so I had BETTER know what bloody trees and flowers are out there
>>or I get a kick in the @$#@ from my Daughter if I don't!!!
>>   Cliff, make sure you keep those street recordings because you never
>>know, I knew a guy who used to record a bloke called John Lennon in
>>Liverpool, pre Beatles, he sold his recordings for a fair price for
>>obvious reasons.
>>I certainly will be back next year or the next AGHHHHH! and I challenge
>>Walt to get there too :)
>>Here is that link to the Birding software I was talking about, it
>really
>>does everything that the Lyrebird doesn't do!!!!!!!!
>>
>>http://www.withoutbricks.com/estore/product.asp?isbn=1887148167
>><http://www.withoutbricks.com/estore/product.asp?isbn=1887148167
><http://www.withoutbricks.com/estore/product.asp?isbn=1887148167&affilia
>>  &affilia
>>te=naturesound> &affiliate=naturesound
>>
>>
>>Martyn
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Doug Von Gausig 
>>Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 4:59 PM
>>To: 
>>Subject: Re: [Nature Recordists] Doug rocks at NSS
>>
>>
>>At 03:11 PM 6/26/2003, Walter Knapp wrote:
>>>And before any of the bird recordists get to uppity, just how many
>>>frogcalls can you identify to species, or insects, or mammals? I've
>  >been
>>>out with bird recordists, where I would hear the frogs, they would
>hear
>>>the birds, and it was real work for us to hear each other's favorite
>>>animal. Let alone identify them.
>>
>>Boy, that's for sure! I try to learn any frog I hear or record, and I'm
>>getting better at it, but not nearly as good as I am with birds. Frogs
>>are
>>often nocturnal, and that makes learning them a bit more difficult.
>They
>>
>>also tend to "sing" at very specific times and in specific conditions.
>>Luckily there are far fewer frog species out there than birds!
>>
>>Web sites like Walter's for frogs and mine for birds are among the best
>>ways we have for disseminating species identifications. I have offered
>>to
>>help recordists ID sounds, and I know that Walter will do the same.
>>
>>Someday we'll devise the perfect heuristic "key" for sounds, but until
>>then, we just have to learn a bit more and slowly get more proficient.
>>
>>Speaking of that key, does anyone want to try to create it? It's not
>>easy,
>>but could be very, very helpful, especially for beginners.
>>
>>Doug
>>Doug Von Gausig
>>Clarkdale, Arizona, USA
>>Moderator
>>Nature Recordists e-mail group
>>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/naturerecordists
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