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RE: Soundscapes beyond bird and frog

Subject: RE: Soundscapes beyond bird and frog
From: "Martyn Stewart" <>
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 07:21:55 -0700
That's fantastic Bernie, I actually read about you doing that in the
Electric Musician or some magazine like that, I bought the subject up at
the Nature Sound Society field workshop the other day and asked if
anyone had heard it! you must have been getting the vibes :) Your work
is fascinating mate and your book, "Wildsoundscapes" is a must for
everybody connected to nature recording. I would love to hear it mate,
can I put it up on my website with a link to yours and your book?
Cheers mate.

Martyn





-----Original Message-----
From: Wild Sanctuary 
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 6:28 AM
To: 
Subject: [Nature Recordists] Soundscapes beyond bird and frog


Yo Martyn,

I've even got a tree... "singing!" Can't set it up on my web site yet
('cause  I'm illiterate in that regard) but can send you (and/or
others) an MP3 sample on request. As mentioned in my book, "Wild
Soundscapes," it was recoreded because we were recording bats and our
bat detector was picking up an unusual constant signal that got
stronger as we approached a particular cottonwood tree. We drilled a
small hole in the trunk, inserted an instrumentation hydrophone (B&K
4183) and, with an instrumentation recorder, captured the 70kHz
signal. When back in the lab, slowed it up by a factor of 7, and got
the cells of the xylem and phloem as they popped from excess osmotic
pressure (apparently). Hence, a rare moment of rhythm.

Bernie

Wild Sanctuary, Inc.
P. O. Box 536
Glen Ellen, CA 95442
707-996-6677 tel
707-996-0280 fax
http://www.wildsanctuary.com

>OK you lot, you have actually got this all wrong! Nuthatch sounds in
>Yuba Pass? Leaves blowing in the trees? I knew you all were not
>listening to what Doug was talking about last Friday night, the sounds
>you heard were one of an escaped Lyrebird, I told you these buggers
were
>clever! It was actually a Lyrebird that was sitting in my place for 3
>days!!!
>I think Rudy, Bernie, Doug and Walt has said it all in these few
e-mails
>and I certainly endorse what Doug said about not thinking we are
>superior! the beauty about what we all do and love is as important as
>the next guy, we are all part of a very important chain and that is the
>chain of nature recording, whether you ID a bird, insect, frog or a
leaf
>on a tree, its the very thing that gets us out there and do what we do.
>What I do try to do, is log down everything I hear and see, if its an
>insect, I want to ID it, if its a frog or a toad, I'm too curious to
not
>know, and Rudy, I have a degree in Horticulture & botany for which is
my
>trade so I had BETTER know what bloody trees and flowers are out there
>or I get a kick in the @$#@ from my Daughter if I don't!!!
>  Cliff, make sure you keep those street recordings because you never
>know, I knew a guy who used to record a bloke called John Lennon in
>Liverpool, pre Beatles, he sold his recordings for a fair price for
>obvious reasons.
>I certainly will be back next year or the next AGHHHHH! and I challenge
>Walt to get there too :)
>Here is that link to the Birding software I was talking about, it
really
>does everything that the Lyrebird doesn't do!!!!!!!!
>
>http://www.withoutbricks.com/estore/product.asp?isbn=3D1887148167
><http://www.withoutbricks.com/estore/product.asp?isbn=3D1887148167
<http://www.withoutbricks.com/estore/product.asp?isbn=3D1887148167&affilia
> &affilia
>te=3Dnaturesound> &affiliate=3Dnaturesound
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>
>Martyn
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Doug Von Gausig 
>Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 4:59 PM
>To: 
>Subject: Re: [Nature Recordists] Doug rocks at NSS
>
>
>At 03:11 PM 6/26/2003, Walter Knapp wrote:
>>And before any of the bird recordists get to uppity, just how many
>>frogcalls can you identify to species, or insects, or mammals? I've
>been
>>out with bird recordists, where I would hear the frogs, they would
hear
>>the birds, and it was real work for us to hear each other's favorite
>>animal. Let alone identify them.
>
>Boy, that's for sure! I try to learn any frog I hear or record, and I'm
>getting better at it, but not nearly as good as I am with birds. Frogs
>are
>often nocturnal, and that makes learning them a bit more difficult.
They
>
>also tend to "sing" at very specific times and in specific conditions.
>Luckily there are far fewer frog species out there than birds!
>
>Web sites like Walter's for frogs and mine for birds are among the best
>ways we have for disseminating species identifications. I have offered
>to
>help recordists ID sounds, and I know that Walter will do the same.
>
>Someday we'll devise the perfect heuristic "key" for sounds, but until
>then, we just have to learn a bit more and slowly get more proficient.
>
>Speaking of that key, does anyone want to try to create it? It's not
>easy,
>but could be very, very helpful, especially for beginners.
>
>Doug
>Doug Von Gausig
>Clarkdale, Arizona, USA
>Moderator
>Nature Recordists e-mail group
>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/naturerecordists
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