We've got plenty of experience with this type of system, Walt.
Although every system has its own limitations, this type (MS) offers,
for us, many more options on the post-production end than any other
we've found so far. But we're always looking...
Bernie
>Wild Sanctuary wrote:
>> That's exactly the system we use. Hi freq hiss depends entirely on
>> the habitat atmospheric conditions, the type of pre-amp you're using
>> and the level of actual signal (in relation to your input levels and
>> the type of recorder you're using). As far as we know, the MKH 30/40
>> M-S combo is the quietest system we've tested.
>
>I'm pretty sure this is some difference in the way I recorded that clip.
>I've checked the mics here and it's perfectly quiet. Every one of the
>MKH systems I have are very quiet normally. I'm pretty sure I must have
>recorded it with too low a gain relative to the others.
>
>Folks will just have to bear with me, I'm just learning these mics.
>Looks like I've learned they are more picky about gain than the Telinga.
>
>Here are the self noise and sensitivity ratings of the various MKH mics
>in my samples:
>
>MKH-20: Noise: 10dBA Sensitivity: 25mV/Pa
>MKH-30: Noise: 13dBA Sensitivity: 25mV/Pa
>MKH-40: Noise: 12dBA Sensitivity: 25mV/Pa
>MKH-60: Noise: 6dBA Sensitivity: 40mV/Pa
>MKH-80: Noise: 10dBA Sensitivity: 40mV/Pa
>MKH-110: Noise: 15dBA Sensitivity: 20mV/Pa (Michael Hartkopf's Data)
>
>The increased sensitivity of the 60 and 80 probably explains my
>impression of a weaker signal from the 40. In the order that I recorded
>in the field the MKH 30/40 setup was used right after the MKH 30/60. Bet
>I forgot to check the gain when I changed over.
>
>I've done a sonogram check on the originals of the clips. The noise is
>increased not just for the high frequencies, but lows as well. Which
>seems to agree with a gain setting error.
>
>The dummy behind the mics will try and do better next time.
>
>Walt
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>From Tue Mar 8 18:23:23 2005
Message: 2
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 14:23:34 -0500
From: Walter Knapp <>
Subject: Re: Hi freq hiss
Wild Sanctuary wrote:
> That's exactly the system we use. Hi freq hiss depends entirely on
> the habitat atmospheric conditions, the type of pre-amp you're using
> and the level of actual signal (in relation to your input levels and
> the type of recorder you're using). As far as we know, the MKH 30/40
> M-S combo is the quietest system we've tested.
I'm pretty sure this is some difference in the way I recorded that clip.
I've checked the mics here and it's perfectly quiet. Every one of the
MKH systems I have are very quiet normally. I'm pretty sure I must have
recorded it with too low a gain relative to the others.
Folks will just have to bear with me, I'm just learning these mics.
Looks like I've learned they are more picky about gain than the Telinga.
Here are the self noise and sensitivity ratings of the various MKH mics
in my samples:
MKH-20: Noise: 10dBA Sensitivity: 25mV/Pa
MKH-30: Noise: 13dBA Sensitivity: 25mV/Pa
MKH-40: Noise: 12dBA Sensitivity: 25mV/Pa
MKH-60: Noise: 6dBA Sensitivity: 40mV/Pa
MKH-80: Noise: 10dBA Sensitivity: 40mV/Pa
MKH-110: Noise: 15dBA Sensitivity: 20mV/Pa (Michael Hartkopf's Data)
The increased sensitivity of the 60 and 80 probably explains my
impression of a weaker signal from the 40. In the order that I recorded
in the field the MKH 30/40 setup was used right after the MKH 30/60. Bet
I forgot to check the gain when I changed over.
I've done a sonogram check on the originals of the clips. The noise is
increased not just for the high frequencies, but lows as well. Which
seems to agree with a gain setting error.
The dummy behind the mics will try and do better next time.
Walt
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