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RE: Camp - Neat Idea

Subject: RE: Camp - Neat Idea
From: "Barb Beck" <>
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 19:30:25 -0700
Rich,

Great idea.  Don't think we can make it but keep us informed anyway.=20
Barb Beck
Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
-----Original Message-----
From: Rich Peet <> 
Sent: January 20, 2003 7:04 PM
To: 
Subject: [Nature Recordists] Re: Stumped on a mic despite researching


sounds very neat. 12 foot board you say with nails and rubber bands?

I hope we get a chance to play together sometime.  There appears to
be enough of us in the midwest usa to meet this summer for a weekend
recording outing and a chance to exchange and tryout equipment and
ideas.  We may not be Yuba Pass but we can sure have fun.

I vote for a camp out at the Kickapoo river for all that wish to
attend.  The sound scape is pretty good except for the interuption by
jets which is still within the specs of any WI location.  The horse
campsite could handle whatever we give it including whatever students
you have that want to engage in the fun. The young always have
something to add if they can be contained in some vague idea of the
straight and narrow. And the current price of groups at the Kickapoo
could not be beat at $0.  Let me know if you have interest and I will
contact 4 to 8 MN recordist type people that would have interest.
4/15-6/15 is best for the sound and for me.

Rich Peet

--- In  Rob Danielson <>
wrote:
> Walt wrote: Please see inserts
>
> >Rob D. wrote:
> >
> >>  For stereo on this budget, which can make the recording process
and
> >>  end results more engaging, I'd consider two Rode Nt3's
condensers.
> >>  They're acceptably quiet, robust, ruggedly made and best of
all, they
> >>  put out  more signal than other low end mics so that one does
not
> >>  have to turn up the MiniDisc mic preamplifier as high and
introduce
> >>  more noise.  The Nt3's run a 9 volt battery or phantom power
should
> >>  you do buy a preamp down the road. ~$160 each last time I
looked.
> >>  They do show up on eBay. Enclosed headphones a must for
evaluatiing
> >>  micing positions.
> >>  Rob
> >
> >I take it you would use these for stereo by coincident miking?
>
> X-Y makes the smallest rig.  a lttle less phase interaction
>
>
> >What
> >angle would you use
>
> Adjustable of course, I use between 30 and 90 degrees. Smaller
angles
> for closer phenomena
>
> >, and what size of stereo field would you expect them
> >to cover?
>
> depends on angle of course. There seems to be pretty consistent
tonal
> colorarion to about 90 degrees with about a 60 degree X-Y angle. My
> students use 90 degrees a lot because its more dramatic.
>
> >As hypercardioids they are probably not going to be all that wide.
>
> For location ambience, I point them wherever the interesting,
higher
> hz sounds are coiming from cuz the lows get in from all sides
> anyways. To get a whole frog pond or a field of birds, hyper/uni's
> never work too well, but being able to get more wood frog and less
> peeper, they work nicely.
>
> >
> >I noted one reviewer saying a single mic was heavy for hand
holding. So
> >with stereo I assume you are planning on using the setup only on a
stand?
>
> a board with 20 penny nails and rubber bands about 9" by 12' is the
> smallest footprint we use.
>
>
> >
> >How wind sensitive and humidity sensitive are these mics?
>
> not bad on wind with normal fake fur jackets.  I've used them on a
> heavy dew night without cracklin. soaked wind screen et al.
>
> Considering how much we type about this,  we really should do a
> "lowest noise/$ " website or collection of links incorporating the
> d-y-i and lower cost items.
>
> Rob D.
>
> --
> Rob Danielson
> Film Department
> University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee


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