Let's ask Lori! I'll forward this conversation to her as she may not not be a Chatline subscriber.
Kim
On Sun, May 12, 2024 at 6:08 AM kennethblack27--- via Canberrabirds <> wrote:
Great find!
Does anyone have an update on the possible Swinhoe's from 2019 that was having some genetic testing done to confirm identity? See original email below.
Ken
From: Lori Gould [
Sent: Friday, 25 January 2019 6:16 PM
To:
Subject: [canberrabirds] Update on Weird Snipes
Hi All,
Message from Dr Birgita Hansen who is following up on the strange Snipe we caught:
‘I have followed up on the two weird birds we caught. It is still hard to say anything about the bird with the 20 tail feathers as the rest of its measurements were within the normal range for Latham’s snipe and mostly outside the range for Swinhoe’s snipe.
Except of course there has never been a record of Latham’s snipe with 20 tail feathers that I can find. Our friend Mr Yellow Legs had all measurements within the range of Swinhoe’s snipe, except the tail length. This means that either I measured the tail wrong
or that this bird truly is a weird Latham’s. After everything I’ve read I’m leaning toward it being a Swinhoe’s Snipe – that would be amazingly exciting if so! The only way to answer this question now is through genetic analysis – thank goodness we collected
a reasonable blood sample from each bird!’
Will keep you posted.
Cheers Lori
Lori Gould
Program Manager
-----Original Message-----
From: Canberrabirds On Behalf Of Ian Fraser via Canberrabirds
Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2024 11:46 AM
To: Cog line <>
Subject: [Canberrabirds] Pin-tailed Snipe at Jerra
I’ve just been sent a copy of Birds Australia Rarities Committee (BARC) Report #1257, regarding a 2022 record of a Pin-tailed Snipe at Jerrabomberra, which has just been accepted by the committee. The report is not yet available on the BARC website, which appears
to be behind due to the redesigning of the overall BA website. The record is described in the report as ‘remarkable’, unsurprisingly given that it is the first substantiated record from the entire east coast of Australia. The observers – local birders Alastair
Smith and Peter Milburn – noted subtle differences from Latham’s Snipe in size, short tail and trailing legs, but crucially they also noted the difference in call and were able to obtain a usable recording of it on a phone (I find that bit remarkable too!)
which they then converted to a sonogram. I guess the issue now is, was this an ultra-unlikely vagrant, or have they been present all along? If the latter, they’re certainly not common or the banding studies would presumably have turned one up by now. In any
case, an excellent piece of field ornithology and follow-up research.
cheers
Ian
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Ian Fraser,
ph: 0427 207 412
Blog:
http://ianfrasertalkingnaturally.blogspot.com.au
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