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Pin-tailed Snipe at Jerra

To: 'Ian Fraser' <>
Subject: Pin-tailed Snipe at Jerra
From: kennethblack27--- via Canberrabirds <>
Date: Sat, 11 May 2024 20:07:16 +0000
Great find!
 Does anyone have an update on the possible Swinhoe's from 2019 that was having 
some genetic testing done to confirm identity? See original email below.

Ken

From: Lori Gould  
Sent: Friday, 25 January 2019 6:16 PM
To: 
Subject: Update on Weird Snipes
 
Hi All,
 
Message from Dr Birgita Hansen who is following up on the strange Snipe we 
caught:
 
‘I have followed up on the two weird birds we caught. It is still hard to say 
anything about the bird with the 20 tail feathers as the rest of its 
measurements were within the normal range for Latham’s snipe and mostly outside 
the range for Swinhoe’s snipe. Except of course there has never been a record 
of Latham’s snipe with 20 tail feathers that I can find. Our friend Mr Yellow 
Legs had all measurements within the range of Swinhoe’s snipe, except the tail 
length. This means that either I measured the tail wrong or that this bird 
truly is a weird Latham’s. After everything I’ve read I’m leaning toward it 
being a Swinhoe’s Snipe – that would be amazingly exciting if so! The only way 
to answer this question now is through genetic analysis – thank goodness we 
collected a reasonable blood sample from each bird!’
 
Will keep you posted.

Cheers Lori
 
 
Lori Gould
Program Manager

-----Original Message-----
From: Canberrabirds On Behalf Of Ian Fraser via Canberrabirds
Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2024 11:46 AM
To: Cog line <>
Subject: Pin-tailed Snipe at Jerra

I’ve just been sent a copy of Birds Australia Rarities Committee (BARC) Report 
#1257, regarding a 2022 record of a Pin-tailed Snipe at Jerrabomberra, which 
has just been accepted by the committee. The report is not yet available on the 
BARC website, which appears to be behind due to the redesigning of the overall 
BA website. The record is described in the report as ‘remarkable’, 
unsurprisingly given that it is the first substantiated record from the entire 
east coast of Australia. The observers – local birders Alastair Smith and Peter 
Milburn – noted subtle differences from Latham’s Snipe in size, short tail and 
trailing legs, but crucially they also noted the difference in call and were 
able to obtain a usable recording of it on a phone (I find that bit remarkable 
too!) which they then converted to a sonogram. I guess the issue now is, was 
this an ultra-unlikely vagrant, or have they been present all along? If the 
latter, they’re certainly not common or the banding studies would presumably 
have turned one up by now. In any case, an excellent piece of field ornithology 
and follow-up research.

cheers

Ian

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Ian Fraser, 
ph: 0427 207 412
Blog: http://ianfrasertalkingnaturally.blogspot.com.au
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