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Answer to trivia question

To: Geoffrey Dabb <>
Subject: Answer to trivia question
From: Martin Butterfield via Canberrabirds <>
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2024 07:37:46 +0000
I was led to contemplate Clements as a candidate by the length of his life list.  There are not a vast number of names with a list longer than 3000, and few of them are from the USA.  His name stood out as one likely to be recognised in this group, but ….


On Wed, 10 Apr 2024 at 17:16, Geoffrey Dabb <> wrote:

Yes.  ‘joined Merchant Marine at age 15, and later shifted to the navy’.  Probably saw more eponymous oceanic bird species before he was 19 than most do in a lifetime..

 

 

From: Canberrabirds <> On Behalf Of Martin Butterfield via Canberrabirds
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2024 3:39 PM
To: Philip Veerman <>
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Subject: Re: [Canberrabirds] Answer to trivia question

 

I have said in an off-group email that I wondered about Clements.  However he was born on 31/10/27 so I rated him too young to have served for 28 months service WWII.   

 

With that birthday and VJ Day on 15/8/1947 he can have been little more than 15 years of age when he signed up.  He would have been 14 years and 5 weeks old when Pearl Harbour was attacked on 7/12 1941.

 

 

On Wed, 10 Apr 2024 at 14:30, Philip Veerman <> wrote:

I did not know the answer to the question but since it has come up. Is there anyone who wants to obtain a copy of the book by this Clements? I have three. I don’t need three:

 

 1          The Clements Checklist of Birds of the World Sixth edition; very good condition.

 

2          The Clements Checklist of Birds of the World Sixth edition; fairly good condition, used and a bit dusty but still perfectly usable.

 

3          Birds of the World a Checklist James F. Clements Fifth edition; condition is mediocre, no plastic cover, a little bit dusty and small tear in back of paper cover,

 

Philip

 

From: Canberrabirds [ On Behalf Of Geoffrey Dabb via Canberrabirds
Sent: Wednesday, 10 April, 2024 2:13 PM
To: Canberrabirds
Subject: [Canberrabirds] Answer to trivia question

 

I hadn’t intentionally posed a Google-proof question.  The full book-jacket blurb is below. That was  the rather sparse info offered about James Clements in the first edition of his checklist in 1974, 50 years ago. In the following year, James was awarded his doctorate, the thesis being his checklist.  20 years later, after further editions of the book checklist, Canberra ornithologist Simon Bennett got James’  permission to use the checklist for a digital creation ‘Birdinfo’ that was used by several Canberra birders for their world lists. After James died in 2005, rights to the checklist passed to Cornell Lab, which issued the final book edition, the 6th, in 2007. Subsequently annual updates were published online. Simon ceased to support Birdinfo at about that time, leading to complaints by keen recorders about lack of a digital recording facility. However Cornell Lab soon filled the gap, extending its eBird to worldwide coverage, using the Clements taxonomy (and the Clements name, for one of the main world checklists), updated each year. You will know the story from there. The Clements list is to be merged into the coming IOU unified global list. I assume eBird will follow the IOU list.  Whether the name of James Clements continues to be used in some way we shall wait to see.

 

 

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