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To: Geoffrey Dabb <>
Subject: Plumed Egret or Intermediate Egret (Plumed)? Re: FW: For eBirders! The annual taxonomy update is starting 24 October
From: Kim Farley via Canberrabirds <>
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2023 01:29:14 +0000
Hi Geoffrey 
Intermediate Egret (Plumed) is being used in the interim until the changes are complete. The name Plumed Egret will appear in due course. This may take a few days to a few weeks. Individual records will be transferred automatically to the new name and no data will be lost. 
Kim
Kim

On Wed, 25 Oct 2023, 12:15 pm Geoffrey Dabb, <> wrote:

I’ve looked a little further into this.  I should make a correction:  the relevant genus was changed from Egretta to Ardea some time ago. Birdlife Australia adopted ‘Plumed Egret’ in Version 3 in 2019/2020.  Now we are seeing a quite interesting transition process.  Contrary to Birdlife, eBird for English (Australia) has adopted the temporary name ‘Intermediate Egret (Plumed)’.  However, ‘Plumed Egret’ is used in the parent list – that of Cornell Lab Birds of the World.  EBird gives ‘Plumed Egret’ if you choose ‘English (IOC)’, which seems odd as the IOC list itself has not yet made the split. As to the consequential mapping, I see the Christmas Island 2019 record is assigned to intermedia – rather unlikely, I think, but you’d need pretty good photographs to separate the 2 species retrospectively.

 

I assume that all this is following from the list-unifying exercise that is going on in the background, although there is not much recent information about that. Cornell Lab/Clements is said to be getting in early and making taxonomic changes in light of general agreement, without waiting for adoption of the final list. I can’t imagine they’d make such a change otherwise, at this time.

 

Happy Egretting!

 

 

From: Canberrabirds <> On Behalf Of Geoffrey Dabb
Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2023 7:29 PM
To: 'Kim Farley' <>; 'Canberra birds' <m("lists.canberrabirds.org.au","canberrabirds");" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">>
Subject: Re: [Canberrabirds] For eBirders! The annual taxonomy update is starting 24 October

 

Thank you Kim.  There has been some confusion about the Intermediate Egret.  Without looking it up, I think it was about 4 years ago that the Australian list (‘WLAB’) recognized Gould’s plumifera as the common ‘Intermediate’ egret (to be known as ‘Plumed Egret’) in Australia.  This meant that reports of ‘Intermediate Egret E. intermedia’ referred  to a vagrant species from north of Australia.   There was certainly some confusion about this.  The Australian Bird Guide did not recognise the split, and the COG list was not brought into line with it.  The eBird split will probably be influential in promoting recognition of the split.  No more Intermediate Egrets at Kelly Swamp then.  The original rationale for the split was fairly slight, as I recall  -  had to do with breeding colour of the bare parts.

 

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