canberrabirds

A hybrid?

To: 'Robin Eckermann' <>
Subject: A hybrid?
From: Philip Veerman <>
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2023 01:14:39 +0000

Robyn,

 

That looks like a typical Crimson/Eastern hybrid. As to your following question, that is not so easy. I suggest it depends if the hybrids are fertile and if they then selectively breed with other hybrids. That is unlikely, which makes the situation not very stable. It is not really the case that a new species arises from hybridisation. I don’t know of documented cases of this, though there may be some. It is suggested that modern humans have hybrid ancestry with Neanderthals, so that could be a contender. It may happen over time but would be unlikely if both species remain stable. But it would be a backwards process. It is backwards because hybridisation occurs when two different species that have a common ancestor rejoin and start hybridisation.

 

Philip

 

From: Canberrabirds [ On Behalf Of Robin Eckermann via Canberrabirds
Sent: Monday, 14 August, 2023 10:46 AM
To:
Subject: [Canberrabirds] A hybrid?

 

Would I be correct in assuming this is a Crimson/Eastern cross?

 

If so, and (probably a question betraying my ignorance) given there is clearly a level of cross-breeding going on, is there a point at which a new species is recognised?

--

Regards ... Robin Eckermann
Phone: 02-6161-6161 (w) 0418-630-555 (m)
--

Attachment: ATT00001.txt
Description: ATT00001.txt

<Prev in Thread] Current Thread [Next in Thread>
  • A hybrid?, Robin Eckermann via Canberrabirds
    • A hybrid?, Philip Veerman <=
Admin

The University of NSW School of Computer and Engineering takes no responsibility for the contents of this archive. It is purely a compilation of material sent by many people to the Canberra Ornithologists Group mailing list. It has not been checked for accuracy nor its content verified in any way. If you wish to get material removed from the archive or have other queries about the list contact David McDonald, list manager, phone (02) 6231 8904 or email . If you can not contact David McDonald e-mail Andrew Taylor at this address: andrewt@cse.unsw.EDU.AU