White-cheeked x New Holland HE hybrid Narrabundah

To: 'John Harris' <>, "" <>
Subject: White-cheeked x New Holland HE hybrid Narrabundah
From: Philip Veerman <>
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2018 01:31:50 +0000
Or maybe which male raised it......... If there is a comment on that, it is 
that more typically if there is song learning involved, it is learned from 
fathers rather than mothers. Although that is based on general results of 
better known other groups of birds, rather than honeyeaters. Beyond that I 
suspect that the two parent species are so similar, it may be hard for us 
people to distinguish which its behaviour is closest to. Apart from that the 
WCH is so rare here that it has probably never met another one, other than its 
assumed lost one parent.


-----Original Message-----
From: John Harris  
Sent: Tuesday, 24 July, 2018 9:05 AM
Subject: Re: [canberrabirds] White-cheeked x New Holland HE hybrid Narrabundah

I wonder what it identifies as? Does its behaviour suggest it relates to WCH or 
NHH? Would that depend on which female raised it?

On 24/7/18, 8:51 am, "Geoffrey Dabb" <> wrote:

    What an interesting record Ryu.  It could be the bird from JWNR. I have 
only seen that bird when there was flowering, either euc or shrub (usually 
grevillea, sometimes callistemon).  Locally the NHH is usually found near 
Grevillea. I was looking yesterday at JWNR and there is little flowering and 
only the odd NHH.  It is quite possible the bird has wandered, as it probably 
has before, in search of food. However over the last 2 seasons breeding 
activity has been at the same location at JWNR.
    It is possible it is a different bird of related origin.  It is not known 
whether occasional reports of a WCH at ABNG are attributable to the Jerra bird.
    I'll take a look at the weekend when the industrious students of 
Narrabundah College are pursuing their studies at home.  Of course it could 
turn up anywhere there is suitable flowering.
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Ryu Callaway <> 
    Sent: Monday, 23 July 2018 7:02 PM
    To: COGChat <>
    Subject: [canberrabirds] White-cheeked x New Holland HE hybrid Narrabundah
    I have just observed what is almost certainly the well-known hybrid from 
Jerrabomberra Wetlands feeding in a grevillea at Narrabundah College around 
4:25pm. Perhaps it has finally decided to move on. 
    I'd gone to investigate an insistent unfamiliar single-note piping call 
when I located the bird in a grevillea, and it subsequently did some scolding 
calls for a while before quieting down. It was there for about 8 minutes (very 
vocal for the first 3 and possibly before I came outside), moving around and 
feeding quite a bit but very wary of my presence before I lost it and I was 
pretty sure it had gone at the end. After it disappeared I tried playing the 
white-cheeked call but it did not reply or return. The bird had the dark eye 
and the cheek patch smaller than a white-cheeked but larger and extending 
further forwards than a new Holland, with the distinctive white upwards flick 
below the eye like the wetland's bird. It's 2.5kms as the bird flies from its 
usual haunt - not sure if that would be within its usual daily movement range 
but as far as I know the first recorded excursion for this bird which has been 
recorded at Jerra fairly frequently for  almost the past 3 years. I've never 
seen a New Holland HE at Narrabundah College either.
    I would certainly be very interested in further sightings either back at 
the wetlands or elsewhere. Hopefully this won't be the last we see of this 
bird, and it isn't on its way to a new home where it may never be found.

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