Re: Re: [canberrabirds] FYI: ebird Taxonomy update 2017

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Subject: Re: Re: [canberrabirds] FYI: ebird Taxonomy update 2017
From: Ryu Callaway <>
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2017 06:01:30 +0000
A few weeks ago, I was advised of complaints by a number of chatline 
subscribers on a number of occasions that I have been "masquerading as an 
official representative of eBird".

Taking that into account, I opted to add a FYI before the title of yesterday's 
email, and did not comment on my thoughts on the update. I even avoided signing 
the email off with my name, and yet, am advised multiple people again raised 
concerns that I was "actively passing myself off as someone having an official 
capacity and formal affiliation with ebird." It wasn't even ebird specific, 
being more about the ebird/Clements taxonomy.

Do people complain with concerns the posters are posing as an official whenever 
Martin or David mention ebird (sorry), or better yet, whenever someone posts a 
link to an article in the media or to a scientific journal?  If someone shares 
a link to a community consultation of interest to birders and encourages people 
to comment, are they suddenly representing either the government or COG's views 
unless they explicitly state otherwise?

I would find it ridiculous if after every message, everyone had to include 
disclaimers to state their position. It's a public email discussion line. We 
comment or share stuff for the interest of other subscribers. People express 
their own views. It's not like I've put in an email signature that connects me 
to an official ebird role to misguide people. If you don't want to read it, 
don't, but there are people that appreciate it.

I hope this makes my stance clear. And perhaps, if you're still unsatisfied, 
tell me directly with a valid reason why I should have to explicitly include a 
Non-Affiliation Disclaimer to share birding-related content on a birding 
discussion list rather than complaining to a third party. Otherwise, I will 
assume everyone is satisfied.


> On 18 Aug 2017, at 7:42 pm, Ryu Callaway <> wrote:
> Changes relevant to australia are summarised in the following article. 
> Nothing major in terms of species level changes though a few additional 
> subspecies entry options

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