Yes obviously Koels do live in and travel through non urban areas. They existed and presumably migrated before European settlement. I did not say otherwise.
I know to “never say never” in such things. However the generality of the point is still valid now. Hardly surprising, of course I think the last sentence of Mark’s message is highly amusing. Funniest thing Mark has ever written. In August 2003
COG committee promised to commission an immediate review of the GBS. Of course it did not happen then and still has not. I am pretty sure I know why.
When you look back at the genesis of this project and who has done what and the struggles it took me over many years to produce that work.
My point about “criticism that the COG book “The Birds of Canberra
Gardens” does not go into details of habitat” was not even about habitat. It was about that the Koel had become much more regular in its occurrence here during those years.
So Mark has gone off onto a tangent I was not addressing. It was about that in the several years of time between V1 in which all the text was derived from mine, and V2 in which most still was but I lost any input to, there was a lot more data available on
this species. They did not bother to add any useful text when there was plenty to add. It does not say much for the ability of
the COG committee to do its own version of the analysis.
It was indeed Mark who raised the point with me in an email quite some time ago that The GBS Report is out of date (as indeed other similar items for the same
reasons). Actually Mark is the only one who has written that to me. Up till then it was not really in my motives to make that point. I really only started “constant referring”
to that issue when it suits me and only after Mark made exactly that “irrelevant” point to me. It is to highlight that I think it is appropriate to update the work. My motives are pretty obvious. I mention it when I think it is relevant.
Philip
From: Mark Clayton [
Sent: Monday, 5 December, 2016 5:15 PM
To: 'Hawkins, Brian'; 'Philip Veerman'; 'Virginia Abernathy';
Subject: RE: [canberrabirds] Still at JWNR [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
I will disagree with Philip that the Pacific Koel has not been recorded in rural areas. Two of the members of The Charcoal Tank and Weddin Mountains banding
team live in the bushland surrounding Queanbeyan, quite a distance from the normal urban area. Their house, built on a fairly steep slopping block, has a large first floor balcony that almost looks into the canopy of the
Eucalyptus polyanthemos, E. macrorhyncha woodland. Pacific Koels are regular visitors to the area (I have heard them in the general area) and several years ago a Noisy Friarbird nested a few metres from the balcony so they were able to watch the
friarbirds coming and going. They were most surprised when the juvenile bird in the nest turned out to be a koel chick. Virginia was made aware of this occurrence after the chick had fledged.
It is a given that koels will occur in non urban areas as they must fly through or over bushland to get anywhere in the southern parts of their range. They
probably go unnoticed as they generally appear to move at night and are not calling until they arrive at the locations they want to reside in.
As for Philip’s criticism that the COG book “The Birds of Canberra Gardens” does not go into details of habitat, it was not designed for that purpose. Philip
should also realise that books such as his are out of date as soon as they are published, as is any book, such as the book that I and others did while I was at CSIRO. His constant referring to data that is out of date makes it irrelevant. I am sure the COG
committee will publish its own version of the analysis of the Garden Bird Chart in its own time.
Mark
From: Hawkins, Brian [
Sent: Monday, 5 December 2016 3:21 PM
To: 'Philip Veerman'; 'Virginia Abernathy';
Subject: RE: [canberrabirds] Still at JWNR [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
The association of Koels with settlement seems to be a widespread phenomenon.
In the Bellinger/Dorrigo area of northern NSW, where there are large tracts of rainforest packed with figs and other good sources of Koel food, Koels are
common in and near towns and farmland, but otherwise surprisingly rare.
Brian
From: Philip Veerman [m("pcug.org.au","pveerman");">]
Sent: Monday, 5 December 2016 1:23 PM
To: 'Virginia Abernathy';
Subject: RE: [canberrabirds] Still at JWNR
Interesting comment. When I typed The GBS Report, most of the text was pretty straight provision of data. At some times I added just what I thought was some
helpful descriptive text and at some times bordering on conjecture. Maybe these days most people don’t seek them out rather they wish they would go away...... Although I did not directly predict an ongoing increase. At that time the Koel was only just beginning
its rapid rise in presence here. But it is nice to see what Virginia wrote and how close it was to my observation 14 years ago about the Koel’s tendency to occur (almost) only in suburban habitat. Also as noted before the word “yet” at the end, indicating
I was confident before it happened, that local breeding would happen. As noted before with more recent data: “Birds of Canberra gardens V2” did not bother to add anything useful - even if you can find out where to find it in the book (hint “E”). Although “Birds
of Canberra gardens V1” did adopt my text about the fruit. To find that the hint is “C”.
Common Koel Eudynamys scolopacea
This cuckoo has arrived here increasingly in recent years, 48 of the 71 records were in Years 18 to 21, including many with repeat observations and some of two birds. Records are overstated a bit as one noisy male can
be widely recorded. Their call is loud, far-carrying and distinctive and observers seek them out when told they have been noted nearby, so many observations are from the bird heard calling. Maller & Jones (2001) in Brisbane found a temporal pattern to their
calling which will impact on recording rate. Seasonal pattern is very clear, arrive in October, build to a December peak then decline, last observed in February.
They seem to inhabit only the suburbs locally and are the only species recorded in the GBS not to be recorded in bush areas around Canberra (except twice,
COG Atlas & 1999-2000 ABR). They are probably attracted by fruit, that is not available in woodlands. No breeding records -
yet.
Graphs on page: 95, Rank: 104, A = 0.00298, F = 6.12%, W = 3.6, R = 0.279%, G = 1.07.
From: Virginia Abernathy
Sent: Monday, 5 December, 2016 11:25 AM
To: Geoffrey Dabb;
Subject: Re: [canberrabirds] Still at JWNR
Hi Geoffrey,
Yes I'm still following all the koel posts out of my own interest. I am unaware of any koels being sighted before at the Jerrabomberra Wetlands, or at any nature reserve for that matter. So that's
pretty exciting that you are hearing them there. It seems like they are becoming more and more common each year and maybe are now expanding into the reserves. It will be interesting to know when/if they ever start breeding in the botanic gardens as there are
so many wattlebirds breeding there.
Cheers,
Virginia
