Yes (in males) which are not as difficult (on other grounds) to distinguish as
are females. As in I think there are easier ways to pick the males. There is a
huge number of websites about them. I think it was Graeme Chapman who first
described this specific feature. I suggest look up his website (rather than us
retype all the information).
Philip
-----Original Message-----
From: Con Boekel
Sent: Wednesday, 28 September, 2016 5:08 PM
To: canberrabirds chatline
Subject: a query
When determining Leaden or Satin I seem to recall that the whether the
bib angles at the sides were upswept or downswept was an indicator.
Can anyone help me with this, please.
regards
Con
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