Comparison of female (above) and juv koels (PV’s bird lower left). Note completely different wing pattern. Call of juv is a monotonous bleat.
From: Philip Veerman [
Sent: Saturday, 3 January 2015 5:07 PM
To: 'Harold Schranz'
Cc: 'Cog line'
Subject: RE: [canberrabirds] A pair of interesting birds; loud at least!
Certainly Koels. I think two juveniles together would be a bit odd (any comment from others?). Your photos don't show an adult male, though there is probably one nearby. At this stage juveniles should be smaller than an adult female. But that may not be a help to you. That they have a black (rather than brown) cap and chin mark or so it seems to me, and the noise you describe suggests to me they are adult females, rather than juveniles. I had a juvenile at my place 2 years ago and whilst its sound was odd, it was not as loud as the adult females.
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From: Harold Schranz
Sent: Saturday, 3 January 2015 3:01 PM
To: Robin Hide; Canberra Birds
Subject: Re: [canberrabirds] A pair of interesting birds; loud at least!
Hi Robin
Thanks ... the sources I had didn't have great pictures so I thought it wasn't a match. Interesting how much different the juvenile feather patterns are than the adults! And they are the loudest thing I've had in the backyard (unless you count endless cockatoos and the occasional husky throated wattlebird!).
Harold