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Subject: | Lorikeets in Hughes (and Gang-Gangs) |
From: | "Philip Veerman" <> |
Date: | Sat, 5 Apr 2014 15:28:38 +1100 |
I am
not confident about the idea of these Rainbow Lorikeets having flown up the Hume Highway (presumably either
north (east)-wards, up from Melbourne or south (west)-wards, up from Sydney -
the ACT being at a higher elevation than both). The species is now abundant in
both these cities, to such an extent that the proportion of the population with
human assisted release history must be minute. Even if the original
population (as in Perth) was released birds from which the big feral population
has grown. But no one has suggested the equally big population in Brisbane is
because they are escaped birds. What we see here could more easily be general
movement of fully wild birds with no human contact history at all, from any
surrounding areas in NSW. The random occurrence suggests this to me especially
as it is matched by dispersal in, of other lorikeet species. It fits natural
dispersal of a typically highly mobile species far more than a static escaped
population or spread of a feral population. There has clearly
been a well documented group of Rainbow Lorikeets in Belconnen, that may well
have an unknown origin of maybe released birds. This specific stable group,
near Mark's home is possibly derived from some released birds and there may be
some others. That surely does not account for all the other observations
around Canberra that do not fit this group in space or time. Although I
note Mark wrote "the birds we
see locally" which can reasonably refer to just that little group
and not all the other occurrences of the species in the COG AOI that Martin and
I refer to.
I published an article about this long ago.
(1991) ‘The
changing status of the Rainbow Lorikeet Trichoglossus haematodus in
On the
other point about Gang-gang Cockatoos. I am curious at John
asking if all GG records
in the ACT ceased in this wet weather. I
wonder why the question would arise. I would be surprised if there
is any reason to think Gang-gang Cockatoos move away from anywhere, because of
rain. And as Mark notes, surrounding areas are also wet. They are inhabitants of
wet parts of mainland Australia.
The
only Gang-gang Cockatoos I have seen or heard this year was one pair near the
ANBG on 15 March and that is because that is the only day I was there. It has
been some years since I have had any GgC in my GBS area.
Philip
-----Original Message-----
From: Martin Butterfield [ Sent: Saturday, 5 April 2014 11:20 AM To: Mark Clayton Cc: calyptorhynchus .; Canberra Birds Subject: Re: [canberrabirds] Lorikeets in Hughes (and Gang-Gangs) Mark
What
evidence would you need to convince you that the Lorikeets are not aviary
escapes?
I have no
dispute at all that the original birds might have escaped from aviaries rather
than flown up the Hume Highway. However I have seen them emerging from
tree hollows in breeding season and the way the numbers and distribution have
changed suggests to me that there is now a self sustaining population in the
Canberra region.
An
analogy could be drawn with Common Mynahs where it is known the original
infestation was a human act but (as far as I am aware) no-one is saying Mynahs
are now escapees.
Martin
Martin Butterfield
On 5 April 2014 10:36, Mark Clayton <> wrote:
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