Red-browed finches

To: "'Geoffrey Dabb'" <>, <>
Subject: Red-browed finches
From: "Philip Veerman" <>
Date: Fri, 31 May 2013 13:38:22 +1000
On Geoffrey's comment. As do most, if not all, Australian finches, have black on all of the bill, for some species they stay black, for most it then changes to red or yellow or white or blue-grey a mix of these. I wonder what would be the story for this bird that Margaret saw, when it was young. Would it have had an all white beak? Who knows? I looked in HANZAB for any mention of this abnormality and didn't find it.
-----Original Message-----From: Geoffrey Dabb [ Sent: Friday, 31 May 2013 10:01 AM      To:
Subject: FW: [canberrabirds] Red-browed finches

Juvenile Red-browed Finches have black on the top of the bill.  They also have black on the rest of the bill.



From: Denis Wilson [
Sent: Thursday, 30 May 2013 3:44 PM
To: Philip Veerman
Cc: Margaret Leggoe;
Subject: Re: [canberrabirds] Red-browed finches


Hi Margaret.

Your first RBF appears to have white on top of the beak, but almost certainly that is merely a reflection (Philip's "trick of the light"). But it certainly appears to lack the black patch on top of the beak (it does show black under the beak).
The second specimen does appear "normal".

Denis Wilson
If you're not pissed off with the World, you're just not paying attention.
(Kasey Chambers)

"The Nature of Robertson"


On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 2:07 PM, Philip Veerman <> wrote:

After having attempted to view the first photo and having to sign on to Flickr (which I have no wish to do), nothing showed, except photos by other people that I don't know and am not interested in. The second link showed a normal Red-browed Finch. So I can't see what you are referring to. To answer your question. Yes all adult Red-browed Finches have a black stripe down the top of their beak (but no other finch species does, as far as I know). So if there is white on the top of its beak, then if it is not poo (i.e. uric acid) or a trick of light reflection, it is probably a genetic defect.




-----Original Message-----
From: Margaret Leggoe [
Sent: Thursday, 30 May 2013 12:55 PM
Subject: [canberrabirds] Red-browed finches

I thought all adult finches had a black stripe down the top of their beak.   Both of these birds look like adults, but one has white on the top of its beak.  Can someone explain this?  Thank you.

Margaret Leggoe


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