canberrabirds

Leaden cf Satin Flycatchers

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Subject: Leaden cf Satin Flycatchers
From: "Philip Veerman" <>
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2012 16:20:50 +1100
The "duller" bit is correct, but that is comparative, so requires some knowledge of both. Like so many things, the description in The McComas Taylor & Nicolas Day guide is good enough for easy to identify birds but when it comes to difficult ones, it is variable, from adequate, to fairly mediocre, to sometimes just wrong. So such birds warrant using another book. Also (in the males) the main wing feathers - that show less blue shine - are close to black in the Satin but grey in the Leaden. I suspect the females are even harder to pick.
 
I think you can be 99%+ confident that a pair using a territory and likely breeding at this time of year, in woodland like Campbell Park, (not forest) are going to be Leaden Flycatchers, just on the basis of habitat.
 
By the way, I changed the subject, I think it is a cf (comparison) more than a vs (adversary).
 
Philip
 
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From: Geoffrey Dabb [
Sent: Sunday, 23 December 2012 1:50 PM
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Subject: RE: [canberrabirds] Leaden vs Satin Flycatchers

Robin  -  if these were near the creek by the Little Eagle paddock there is a mini-colony there, with one nest quite non-typical  -  less than 2m high against the main stem of a live sapling with no over-branch.  The agitated adults come to within 2m so a site best avoided.

 

There are various theories about the varying angle of the breast demarcation, but the best guide, as Graeme Chapman pointed out in a Wingspan article some years ago, is that the male Satin is white and BLACK, not just dull-looking in low light, but blue-BLACK like a Satin Bowerbird.  Your dullest shots will look darkish, but these are clearly Leadens.  g   

 

From: Robin Eckermann [
Sent: Sunday, 23 December 2012 1:37 PM
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Subject: [canberrabirds] Leaden vs Satin Flycatchers

 

I snapped these Flycatchers at Campbell Park this morning - I suspect they're Leadens, though they're a bit glossier than some of the Leaden's I've shot in the past. The McComas Taylor & Nicolas Day guide seems to have nearly identical descriptions for both species, with the main differentiator being that Leadens are duller. Does anyone have any other tips for distinguishing between these two very similar birds?


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Regards ... Robin Eckermann

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