Canberra Birds for beginners

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Subject: Canberra Birds for beginners
From: "Philip Veerman" <>
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2012 21:59:49 +1000
Yes both comments are completely true. And we can speak of typical gardens or GBS areas or whatever else we wish to speak of. (I think Geoffrey's start point was not about GBS.) I am not entirely comfortable about the description of a "distortion" though. This issue of the problems and biases of the GBS is all of these things a: feature, attribute, strength, weakness, opportunity, threat. That GBS by its rules extends often beyond the immediate person's garden allows collection of status data that otherwise simply would not have been collected. What comes out of the GBS relates to what went in, with all its good points and its inconsistencies. That is why I devoted so much attention to explaining the history, style and methods of the GBS and the time and space connections in the data. Accepting the Birds of Canberra Gardens book is distorting, because it makes no useful or accurate attempt to explain these things.
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From: Geoffrey Dabb [ Sent: Saturday, 14 April 2012 1:23 PM      To:
Subject: FW: [canberrabirds] Canberra Birds for beginners

Thank you, Martin,  and spoken like a statistician.   We are speaking of typical gardens here.   One of the distortions of the GBS is that it takes in non-garden areas, eg chunks of nature parks.  The proposition that ducks nest in tree hollows in gardens will come as a surprise to the average Canberra gardener.


From: martin butterfield [ Sent: Saturday, 14 April 2012 12:39 PM      To: Geoffrey Dabb      Cc:
Subject: Re: [canberrabirds] Canberra Birds for beginners


Nice try, but I don't think a cigar can be awarded. 

Many gardens get visits from waterbirds (eg White-faced Herons knocking off goldfish from 2m square ponds, Australian Wood Ducks and Pacific Black Ducks doing what ducks do (eg grazing on lawns, nesting in tree hollows). 

Whether open country birds turn up is a matter of where the garden is located and what is there that might interest the birds.  Both Skylarks and Australasian Pipits have been reported reasonably often in the GBS (Skylark at least once in 28/30 years and Australasian Pipit at least once in 29/30 years).


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