I am with Ian on this one, as to the oddness of the habitat and the history
of known introduction. Whether or not someone wishes to include them on
their personal lists is of no concern of mine. I have no idea about what
"OTOH" is though and maybe why it should live in the Northern Territory.
Philip
-----Original Message-----From: Con Boekel Sent:
Sunday, 1 April 2012 9:27 AM To:
Subject: Tid Magpie-geese
Ian
I had had the same thought in relation to the High Country valleys not
being MG habitat. OTOH, the Lachlan catchment starts not far north west
of the ACT, as the goose flies. I imagine that Lake George would have
been suitable feeding grounds at times. OTOH, living in the Northern
Territory, away from the normal MG range, we used to get the odd waif
and stray MG. I imagine that the ACT might have got the odd waif and
stray but that would have been about it.
Con
On 1/04/2012 8:28 AM, Ian Fraser wrote:
> There's a bit of mythology surrounding the Tid M-g, perhaps
> inadvertently triggered by earlier TNR managers. I have looked and
> failed to find any evidence of M-g ever occurring naturally in the
> area; it is something that early chroniclers such as Samuel Schumack
> would have been expected to comment on. Furthermore the high valleys
> of TNR don't seem appropriate habitat to me. We do know that they were
> common in the Lachlan catchment however.
>
> I look forward to any evidence to the contrary.
>
> cheers
>
> Ian
>
> On 31/03/2012 19:57, Daniel Hoops wrote:
>> I've been reading the discussions in the COG e-mail list archives and
>> it seems that the conclusion is that they are not considered wild,
>> but the "evidence" to back it up seems to contradict that. It seems
>> from the discussions that some, if not all, of the geese are
>> free-flying, and they reproduce and sustain themselves, which I think
>> would make them a self-sustaining population.
>>
>> Furthermore, we spoke to three wildlife carers at Tid when we were
>> there today, including Scott Ryan who posts to Eremaea (and who may
>> see this, and if so, hopefully speak up). They said that the birds
>> are not restrained and stay because they are fed. That would seem to
>> me to be a wild, small population reintroduced to an area where they
>> were formerly found. Why am I wrong?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Dan
>>
>> Daniel Hoops
>> PhD Candidate, Keogh Lab
>> Research School of Biology
>> The Australian National University
>> Room 201, Building 44, Daley Road
>> Canberra, ACT, 0200
>> Australia
>> 02 61258057
>>
>>
>> On 31/03/2012, at 6:16 PM, Margaret Leggoe wrote:
>>
>> This is a "captive" MG photographed inside the high wire fence at
>> Tidbinbilla.
>> <image001.jpg>
>>
>> These are "wild" MG photographed outside said enclosure an hour
>> later. Possibly the same birds.
>>
>> <image002.jpg>
>>
>> Take your pick.
>> Margaret Leggoe
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Daniel Hoops
>> Sent: Saturday, 31 March 2012 5:48 PM
>> To: COG list
>> Subject: [canberrabirds] Osprey
>>
>> On the way back from Tidbinbilla today we saw an osprey over the
>> Cotter Dam. We were able to see it quite close from below and from
>> the side before it cruised off over the ridge heading west. I take
>> it that osprey are not common birds in the ACT, so I thought I'd
>> report it here.
>>
>> P.S. What is the status of the magpie geese in Tidbinbilla? I take
>> it that they were put there, but they're not restrained by wing
>> clipping like the freckled ducks and brolga. Does that make them
>> "wild"?
>>
>> P.P.S. Are there any dollarbirds left in the ACT? I would really
>> like to see one and I haven't been able to find one! Any advice?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Dan
>>
>> Daniel Hoops
>> PhD Candidate, Keogh Lab
>> Research School of Biology
>> The Australian National University
>> Room 201, Building 44, Daley Road
>> Canberra, ACT, 0200
>> Australia
>> 02 61258057
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