canberrabirds

Tid Magpie-geese

Subject: Tid Magpie-geese
From: Ian Fraser <>
Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2012 08:28:49 +1000
There's a bit of mythology surrounding the Tid M-g, perhaps inadvertently triggered by earlier TNR managers. I have looked and failed to find any evidence of M-g ever occurring naturally in the area; it is something that early chroniclers such as Samuel Schumack would have been expected to comment on. Furthermore the high valleys of TNR don't seem appropriate habitat to me. We do know that they were common in the Lachlan catchment however.

I look forward to any evidence to the contrary.

cheers

Ian

On 31/03/2012 19:57, Daniel Hoops wrote:
I've been reading the discussions in the COG e-mail list archives and it seems that the 
conclusion is that they are not considered wild, but the "evidence" to back it 
up seems to contradict that.  It seems from the discussions that some, if not all, of the 
geese are free-flying, and they reproduce and sustain themselves, which I think would 
make them a self-sustaining population.

Furthermore, we spoke to three wildlife carers at Tid when we were there today, 
including Scott Ryan who posts to Eremaea (and who may see this, and if so, 
hopefully speak up).  They said that the birds are not restrained and stay 
because they are fed.  That would seem to me to be a wild, small population 
reintroduced to an area where they were formerly found.  Why am I wrong?

Cheers,
Dan

Daniel Hoops
PhD Candidate, Keogh Lab
Research School of Biology
The Australian National University
Room 201, Building 44, Daley Road
Canberra, ACT, 0200
Australia
02 61258057


On 31/03/2012, at 6:16 PM, Margaret Leggoe wrote:

This is a "captive" MG photographed inside the high wire fence at Tidbinbilla.
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These are "wild" MG photographed outside said enclosure an hour later.  
Possibly the same birds.

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Take your pick.
Margaret Leggoe

-----Original Message-----
From: Daniel Hoops 
Sent: Saturday, 31 March 2012 5:48 PM
To: COG list
Subject: [canberrabirds] Osprey

On the way back from Tidbinbilla today we saw an osprey over the Cotter Dam.  
We were able to see it quite close from below and from the side before it 
cruised off over the ridge heading west.  I take it that osprey are not common 
birds in the ACT, so I thought I'd report it here.

P.S. What is the status of the magpie geese in Tidbinbilla?  I take it that they were put 
there, but they're not restrained by wing clipping like the freckled ducks and brolga.   
Does that make them "wild"?

P.P.S. Are there any dollarbirds left in the ACT?  I would really like to see 
one and I haven't been able to find one!  Any advice?

Cheers,
Dan

Daniel Hoops
PhD Candidate, Keogh Lab
Research School of Biology
The Australian National University
Room 201, Building 44, Daley Road
Canberra, ACT, 0200
Australia
02 61258057



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