Kelly's: painted snipe still present

[martin butterfield <>]

If these folk are there taking photographs of the bird I would like to think they are interested enough in the bird to realise that one does not go pursuing them so closely as to disturb them.  If their need for the ultimate snap over-rides that amount of common sense I doubt if a sign will deter them.  

I hope someone got a photo of the offenders and will be interested to hear what form the CNP response has taken.  My understanding is  the Rangers don't actually have any power to stop people doing bad stuff, and AFP (who do have that power) rate people interfering with wildlife about priority 43.

Martin

On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 3:41 PM, Geoffrey Dabb <> wrote:

 I sympathise entirely with the general point.  The problem is that in the
absence of the long-awaited management framework there is no clear  -

a)  policy on where people can and cannot go  (calling a place a 'refuge
area' does not confer any legal status)
b)  signage or other form of communication indicating such (indeed, there is
an invitational gate in the fence, and no other boundaries indicated)
c)  an enforcement regime  -  even if all the above were in place.

In the meantime, some sensible and tactful directional work (perhaps
advisory signs) will be a good idea.  (I hope the notorious Powerful Owl
supervisor will not be deployed for this purpose.)

I understand there is a proposal for an official film crew to be deployed on
Tuesday.  No doubt they will be keen to get their shots.  Sauce for the
female painted-snipe might look like sauce for the male ditto.

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From: Ian Fraser [
Sent: Saturday, 8 October 2011 2:49 PM
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Subject: Kelly's: painted snipe still present

Totally agree, Marnix and Con. I've just made a phone call which I'm hoping
will get some action to keep people away from the west bank 'refuge' area -
I'm assuming with some confidence that this irresponsible lot are NOT
locals. Please continue to report such infractions.

cheers all

Ian

On 8/10/2011 12:52, Marnix Zwankhuizen wrote:
> The birds are still present at Kelly's Swamp this morning. They remained
almost completely hidden in grass tussocks for most of the time I was
watching only occasionally stretching their wings or preening.
>
> I ended up leaving around 12:45 since several people armed with cameras
and powerful lenses were trudging within 10 meters of the birds hoping to
catch a pic. The birds obviously weren't going to show after that.
>
> Marnix
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