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Subject: | Koel question |
From: | "Philip Veerman" <> |
Date: | Sun, 9 Jan 2011 13:24:05 +1100 |
Hello
Anne,
Those
are big questions that apply not only to Koels but migrants of a whole range of
species. Lots of people have researched migration over decades with those
questions in mind and there are many books and papers about this. We are
scratching the surface but still many mysteries as to how they do it. I don't
know for sure about Koels. In most species the question about where and when do they catch up with
the actual parents as they go north, does
not apply, as they don't, they go by themself and how they know where to
go (!!) well that is the big
question or is this a new phenomonen, locally in the short term for Koels breeding in Canberra yes, but
more broadly, no. So I suggest
the answers to those questions for those who are interested, is better found by
reading books about animal migration, than by searching for information via only
considering one species. Though the answers for one species may be different for
others.
About
Koels in Kambah. I am mostly at home these last few months and although I hear
Koels occasionally, they are far from my home at Castley Circ. I think you are
on the other side of Kambah.
Philip
-----Original Message-----From: martin butterfield
[ Sent: Sunday, 9 January 2011 12:24
PM Anne addressed this
question to me, but I don't think I have the knowledge to address it, so with
her agreement have posted it to this wider pool of expertise.To: COG List Subject: [canberrabirds] Fwd: Koel question Best regards Martin ---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: anne & john ions <> Date: Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 11:03 AM Subject: Koel question To: Butterfield Martin <> Martin, a simple question..we have several Koels here in Kambah over the last nearly four months..male calling, then couple, now singles. Many friarbirds and wattle birds two, with now youngsters..I suspect one could be a young Koel with wattle bird parents..my question ..if the Koel youngsters are raised by other parents, where and when do they catch up with the actual parents as they go north, how they know where to go (!!) or is this a new phenomonen..I guess we have a smaller population here in C at the moment?? (although the Ks have been here in Kambah for at least 4 summer seasons) I have not found any relevant info on the young Koels immigration pattern on WEB or COG, or other books! Also, my last week walk around Lake Tugg. was really interesting, a very good breeding year with many youngsters surviving the small stages and now almost adults..the swans were spectacular with four out of five goslings in full plumage. Good luck for 2011. Cheers Anne I |
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