Escaping birds

["Philip Veerman" <>]

Hi Martin,

 

Yes it would be really nice to have information of the type your last sentence suggests. I suspect there would be a reluctance from these people, based on embarrassment or whatever, to provide this information. So such information is unlikely to be consistent or accurate. I know the ACT Gov requires people to register stocks of specified fauna and report on these and what has happened to them. Or I assume still do. But these do not include the common species, which are the ones that could provide enough information to be useful. Very likely more are released or get out from the people who have one or two of any of the common species (budgies, cockatiels, Rose-ringed Parakeets) and they are not likely to be members of clubs that could keep records. When I was at school and university a small number of times some of my finches escaped. Usually if one of a pair got out, they would stay around and keep conversation with the one still inside and I usually could catch them again. But if not found that way within the first morning, I never saw them again.

 

Philip

 

-----Original Message-----
From: martin butterfield [
Sent: Tuesday, 31 August 2010 12:41 PM
To: Philip Veerman
Cc: COG List
Subject: Re: [canberrabirds] Escaping birds

Thanks for those comments
Philip.

Here is a link http://www.rspb.org.uk/ourwork/policy/species/nonnative/eagleowls.asp
to the article from which I extracted material in my last message.  The
only suggestion I can find as to why people might keep eagle owls is in the
reference to falconry (although when - in my youth in the UK - I hung out with
falconers I never head of anyone having an Eagle Owl).  I agree that there
is a leap from the number of certificates to the inference that there are a
large number of birds in captivity.

WRT to the last bit what I was hoping
for was someone who is connected with the captive bird situation in Canberra (or
indeed elsewhere in Australia)  to say something like "Our members, who
have got n birds of species A, have reported z escapes per
year.".    This would be to be a useful topic for research by
someone concerned about the impact of feral birds.

Martin

On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 6:31 PM, Philip Veerman <> wrote:

Martin,

 

That is curious. I wonder why would anyone want to keep an Eagle Owl. I wonder if they would cost more to feed than a dog. Most likely they would be fed on rats. I agree those figures sound like a high escape rate. Or are people not wanting them any more and releasing them, and calling that an escape. I don't follow the logic about counting certificates if a bird is sold enabling a suggesting that the number kept in captivity is likely to be considerably higher than this. Surely one bird could be sold many times. They can live a long time. I can imagine people would get bored with keeping one.

 

About your last bit, it is difficult to describe, as we know so little about how long individual escaped birds survive. Beyond that, as you know, the GBS Report comments on this issue for Canberra, as our GBS is a probably unique position to contain relevant (even if patchy) data. I don't know of any study that offers anything more than the GBS Report does (as minimal as that was), otherwise I would have cited it in the references................

 

Philip

 

-----Original Message-----
From: martin butterfield [
Sent: Saturday, 28 August 2010 1:57 PM
To: COG List
Subject: [canberrabirds] Escaping birds

As a result of reading about an Eagle Owl (in the UK) atacking a Hen Harrier I checked out the RSPB site to find about Eagle Owls, which I thought got no closer to the UK than the Alps.  It seems there are quite a few in the UK derived from escapees.  I thought it might be of interest to reproduce the words of the RSPB about this situation.

"The eagle owl has been known in captivity in this country since at least the 17th century and many were brought from India during the 19th century. Eagle owls are very commonly kept in captivity - often by people who are not falconers. There is no formal requirement to register these birds, but a certificate is required if a captive bird is sold. In the 10 years to 2007, 3,370 such certificates were issued. The number of eagle owls kept in captivity is likely to be considerably higher than this.

"Of the 440 captive eagle owls registered with the Independent Bird Register between 1994 and 2007, 123 (28%) were reported to have escaped. Of these, 73 were reported as not having been recovered. This equates to 9-10 escapees per annum, of which 5-6 were not recovered. If the same escape rate is applied to a conservative estimate of the British captive population over the same 13-year period, around 65 birds could be expected to escape each year."

This seemed an astonishing number of escapes.  I wonder if anyone has done any studies of the escape rate of Australian captive birds?