Coming
from you, Ian, I am sure that’s not a criticism,
but ‘deserts’, with the accent on the second syllable, is actually
correct. The often-seen ‘just desserts’ is incorrect, and
ludicrous, if you think about it. g
From:
Ian Fraser [m("pcug.org.au","ianf");">]
Sent: Monday, 9 November 2009 2:21 PM
Cc: 'Canberra Birds'
Subject: Re: [canberrabirds]COG walks, fell swoops and
honoured breaches
an arid fate....
Geoffrey Dabb wrote:
And
may I also file a mild protest at ‘Lead on,
Macduff’, as sometimes heard at the start of COG walks.
The
phrase is a mis-quoting of ‘Lay on,
Macduff’, uttered by Macbeth at the start of the fight in which Macbeth
is killed. All those children who follow this chatline will be pleased
to
learn that the nasty man got his deserts.
At the risk of pedantry ... ‘fell’ as in
‘one fell swoop’ does indeed originally mean harsh or cruel and
yes, it now tends to be used to mean “all at one go”. [That is,
when it is not corrupted by those who have only half heard it into “one
foul swoop” (grr!). Maybe they mean ‘one fowl swoop’ and have
hawk eagles in mind!]
But “ more honoured in the breach” simply means
“more often broken that conformed with”. It brings no honour
to the breaker, be s/he in the majority or not. J
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This is one of those
_expression_ quoted from
Shakespeare which is usually not used in accordance with the original
meaning.
People use "fell swoop" to mean "all at once", whereas
'fell' actually means 'cruel'. So in John's example this might be
appropriate,
but in the usual usage it is not.
cf "A custom more honoured in the breach than the observance" does
not mean "a custom that's usually neglected", it means, "a
custom that gains people more honour when they neglect it".
John Leonard
On Nov 8, 2009 2:13pm, Geoffrey Dabb m("iinet.net.au","gdabb");"><>
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> Subject: [canberrabirds] Hello! New computer. Vroom!!
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> Thirteen years ago I bought a computer. Last week it gave up
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Vrooom!!!
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> This is my first email, so bear with boy with new toy. Late
> yesterday afternoon went for a drive along Parkwood Road, Holt,
which may
> appear a nondescript semi-rural thoroughfare but has revealed some
> interesting birds lately, eg Brown Songlark & Horsfield’s
Bushlark
> last week. Yesterday was surprised to see five Wood Ducks huddled
around
> a few remaining rainwater puddles right at the edge of the
bitumen. Couple
of
> Masked Lapwings nearby and a number of Australasian Pipits here
and there
along
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descended
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instance,
> appropriate? It’s an _expression_ I’m never sure about.)The
kestrel
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rapidly
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Ian Fraser, m("pcug.org.au","ianf");">
Environment Tours; Vertego Environmental Consultancy
GPO Box 3268, Canberra, ACT 2601
ph: 61 2 6249 1560
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