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Unusual raptor

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Subject: Unusual raptor
From: "Philip Veerman" <>
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 00:57:34 +1100
Well yes and Square-tailed Kite is one I have been predicting as a likely new species for ACT for some time. However their tail is noticeably longer than a Little Eagle's and their wing tips are barred so would probably not impress as black. I would be more inclined towards young Spotted Harrier, that matches the wing tips and is less rare, although they also have a long tail (maybe in moult?).
 
 
Philip Veerman
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Kambah  ACT  2902
 
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From: Dimitris Bertzeletos [
Sent: Tuesday, 20 October 2009 9:31 PM
To: canberra birds
Subject: RE: [canberrabirds] Unusual raptor

Hello Tobias,

I was going to suggest Square-tailed Kite as the flight you describe suits and it's the right time for passage birds. One that got away...;-)

D.


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Subject: Re: [canberrabirds] Unusual raptor
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 18:33:47 +1100

Hi Dmitris,
Sorry, I should have mentioned. It appeared a browny colour, more rufous/lighter than I would normally expect from a Whistling Kite (although not out of realm for a Little Eagle). As I said, I only really surely noticed the black wingtips, but inside the wingtips it was certainly paler. I won't go so far as to say white, I couldn't tell from that distance. DAMMIT, should have checked it out close, stuff friends and classes when it comes to a possibly rare bird.
Cheers
Tobias
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Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 6:26 PM
Subject: RE: [canberrabirds] Unusual raptor

Hello Tobias,

Two questions before I give you my opinion on the bird. What colour was it and did it have wing panels?

Cheers!

Dimitris



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Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 18:17:00 +1100
Subject: [canberrabirds] Unusual raptor

Hi all,
This morning I observed an unusual raptor soaring above our school (in North Weston). I only had a view of it for about half a minute before I was dragged inside by a classmate:)
I don't usually post queries on bird IDs, especially when it very likely cannot be determined (such as in this case), but I thought I might see what other people might think of it, as well as alerting people to this bird.
The most striking feature (from a distance, without bins) was the black wing tips. The most likely suspect is probably a Little Eagle, but I have never been struck by the black wingtips of a L Eagle. Certainly not a falcon or an eagle or a goshawk. Not a Whistling Kite, tail was very short. In fact, I would say that the tail was bordering on being too short for a Little Eagle even (or what I could see of it from a distance).
Flapping was fairly fast for a bird of its size (maybe around that of a L Eagle or Whistling Kite at a guess). The wings appeared much longer in comparison to the body than a Little Eagles, broader at the tips. The bird lacked the 'compact' look of a Little Eagle, it was more like a harrier in that respect. But the tail was too short for a harrier.
I guess I would say it looked like a Black-breasted Buzzard in shape, but I am fully aware of how out of range this is, not to mention the fact that I haven't seen a buzzard anyway.
 
Oh well, opinions welcomed, but I guess this might have to remain unIDed.
 
Thanks
Tobias


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