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A question about Royal Spoonbills

To: "martin butterfield" <>, "COG List" <>
Subject: A question about Royal Spoonbills
From:
Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 14:07:11 +1100
Martin, in my view they have not fledged until they are flying.  The two in the 
lower LH nest have been getting out of the nest and along the branches for at 
least two or three days now.  The one is the RH nest was also out of the nest 
last time I was there (Friday).

Regards
Frank
-----Original message-----
From: "martin butterfield" 
Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 11:42:15 +1100
To: "COG List" 
Subject: A question about Royal Spoonbills

> Elizabeth Compston went to Kelly's Swamp this morning and reported *inter
> alia*:
> "There were only a few ibises about, but one seemed to have taken over the
> lower LH nest.  The 2 spoonbill chicks were perched above that nest; no
> parent was with them.  Later a parent flew, displaced the ibis and fed,
> slowly, one of the begging chicks.  I was able to compare the size of the
> bill of the chick with that of the parent.  It is still quite a bit smaller
> than its parents.  Good views were had of chicks and parent, although at
> times one or more would be hidden by leaves."
> My question is can the chicks in this nest be considered to have fledged?
> They are - as far as I can tell - fully feathered (which is one of the
> definitions of fledge) and after all the wing flapping over the past several
> days must be (at least very nearly) ready to fly (another definition).  They
> are not in the nest any more (so NY is NA for this nest) but given that
> feeding was observed they are still dependent.  (As a side issue does the
> smallness of the beak mean they are not capable of feeding themselves yet?)
> 
> OK, that is two questions- regard it as a post-Christmas, pre-recession
> two-for-one bargain.
> 
> Martin
> 
> 

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