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Woodswallow DNA similarity

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Subject: Woodswallow DNA similarity
From: "Geoffrey Dabb" <>
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 17:20:13 +1000

A curious word ‘meiosis’, and I wonder just when it was appropriated by scientists for use in that connection.  My Oxford dictionary gives only the rhetorical meaning ie a verbal understatement for effect, as in ‘250 species of birds would be a fair number to see in the ACT in one year’.  My Macquarie gives the scientific meaning first but then, as a secondary meaning, ‘litotes’, that being a subspecies of meiosis using the negative, as in ‘210 species of birds wouldn’t be a bad total to have  recorded in the ACT in the 9 months to the end of September’.  Mind you, most contributions to this chatline tend to the non-meiotic.

 

I wonder whether the scientists liked the sound of the word and borrowed it from the rhetoricians or adopted it directly from the Greek for ‘lessening’ or ‘diminution’.  If American, they would surely have gone for ‘downsizing’.  I would have loved to hear:  ‘With that new manager there’s going to a bit of meiosis around here over the next few months’.  Inevitably the media will get in on  it:  ‘Rudd to go semi-meiotic with Aussie troops in Iraq’.   

 

From: Philip Veerman [
Sent: Friday, 5 October 2007 10:09 PM
To: Peter Milburn;
Subject: [canberrabirds] Woodswallow DNA similarity

 

Good point and there is a lot of similarity between the DNA of people (or any mammal) and gum trees or grass or fungi etc too. I vaguely remember something about 20 to 30%. Not surprisingly, as the processes of many biological functions, such as the running of our genetic systems (meiosis & mitosis etc) and many very basic biochemical processes are still similar and common to all multicellular life. But that is getting a bit off the topic of Canberra birds. 

 

Philip

----- Original Message ----- From: To: m("canberrabirds.org.au","canberrabirds");" > Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 9:40 AM  Subject: [canberrabirds] Woodswallow DNA similarity

 

Geoffrey recalled Leo Joseph's presentation in which he showed that on DNA analysis the two species [White-browed and Masked Woodswallow] were almost identical, the difference being the gene (or whatever) that is responsible for the plumage differences.

 

To put this similarity in context I would like to add that the human genome is 99% identical to that of the chimpanzee and bonobo.  I will leave it to others to ponder what the differences might be..........

 

Milburn

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