canberrabirds

a tangent to the rainbird

To: "roger curnow" <>
Subject: a tangent to the rainbird
From: "martin butterfield" <>
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 07:32:08 +1000
The usage of "piping shrike" as a synonym for "Australian Magpie" extends to the offical description of the emblem of South Australia (see http://www.premcab.sa.gov.au/emblems/shrike1.htm.  Noting Roger's comment has 'piping crow' as a further misnomer perhaps people from SA should be referred to as magpie-munchers rather than crow eaters?
 
Wikipedia  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rainbird suggests that the name refelects the habit of the birds singing (can the Channel-billed cuckoo be said to sing?) before rain.  Do Australian magpies sing more before rain than at any other time?
 
Martin

 
On 8/15/07, roger curnow <m("bigpond.net.au","rcurnow");" target="_blank"> > wrote:
Quoting again.
 
"What Bird Is That" (Cayley) has Piping Crow-shrike for Black-backed Magpie.
 
"The Oxford English Dictionary " has Piping:  In names of particular kinds of birds or other animals having a piping note or cry: as piping crow, the Australian genus Gymnorhina...............
1845 Voy. to Port Philip, etc. 53 The warbling melops and the piping crow.
1895 C
. Dixon in Fortn. Rev. Apr. 643 The Gymnorhinæ or piping crows of Australia.
 
The Australian National Dictionary (Oxford) has
piping crow. Magpie n.1 a. Also piping crow-shrike, piping shrike.
 
        roger curnow
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Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 8:44 PM
Subject: RE: [canberrabirds]a tangent to the rainbird

 
If you will permit a tangential thought.   I had thought the "shrike" was a magpie, and the South Australian "piping shrike" was a magpie ....was it in fact intended to be a butcher-bird?
 
Murray Delahoy
 
 
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From: roger curnow [mailto:m("bigpond.net.au","rcurnow");" target="_blank"> ]
Sent: Tuesday, 14 August 2007 6:12 PM
To: COG
Subject: [canberrabirds] rainbird

The Oxford English Dictionary (2nd Ed.) offers

In Australia: (see quots.).

1860 G

. B ennett Gather. of Naturalist 283 The Australian Shrike or Butcher-bird, also called Rain-bird by the colonists (Vanga destructor).
1898 M
orris Austral Eng. s.v., The rain-bird of Queensland and the interior is the great Cuckoo or Channel-bill.

        roger curnow


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