[UNCLASSIFIED]RE: [canberrabirds] Magpie Geese at Tidbinbilla ACT

To: "'John Cummings'" <>, <>, <>
Subject: [UNCLASSIFIED]RE: [canberrabirds] Magpie Geese at Tidbinbilla ACT
From: "Pedroanddi" <>
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 17:12:58 +1000
On Friday I saw magpie geese in a flooded roadside padock near Graftom in northern NSW.
I remember some years ago someone reporting magpie geese at Rowes (Rose?) Lagoon between Canberra and Goulburn. 
Peter Mellor 
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From: John Cummings [
Sent: Thursday, 11 August 2005 4:50 PM
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Subject: RE: [canberrabirds] [UNCLASSIFIED]RE: [canberrabirds] Magpie Geese at Tidbinbilla ACT

There have been records in the last few years of Magpie Geese spreading out to their former range, even as far south as the Murrumbidgee irrigation system.  I can not confirm this but I feel confident that some one in the group could confirm or deny this for sure. 

However there are now breeding Magpie Geese in the Shortland? Wetlands on the northern border on Newcastle

These have been here for several years now and migrated into the area by their own accord.

Magpie Geese were also a good food source which probably helped their demise in some areas.

Even in SE Queensland they have dramatically increased in numbers in the last few years.


John Cummings

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Sent: Thursday, 11 August 2005 4:36 PM
Subject: [canberrabirds] [UNCLASSIFIED]RE: [canberrabirds] Magpie Geese at Tidbinbilla ACT


They are captive,

If I remember rightly most of the original magpie geese were pinioned, so the birds can never fly. Some of the birds wings were clipped and regrew but they hung with their buddies. As a flocking species they dont really have anywhere to go. Before the fires there were 21 or 22, now there are 21 or 22.

The wetlands area was not very affected by the fires and the waterbirds were OK.

The musk ducks are also captive.

Most other birds are not captive and introduced themselves and can fly in and out.

The closest I know of magpie geese is the SE corner of Qld which is nowhere near here. Over the years development and draining of wetlands presumably were the reason for the magpie geese distribution contracting northwards greatly. They used to occur quite far south.

The rangers saying they are not captive is really based on technicalities to apease tourists but in reality they are.


Benj Whitworth


From: Philip Veerman [
Sent: Thursday, 11 August 2005 3:23 PM
To: Alastair Smith; 'Nicholas Talbot';
Subject: [canberrabirds] Magpie Geese at Tidbinbilla ACT

That is intriguing. I wonder whether any other the former captive Magpie Geese there, survived the fire (they were breeding there before that). If not and new ones have not been brought in, could any new birds there be of wild origin?



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