To: Philip Veerman <>, "" <>
Subject: [LACoBirds] PANDEMIC
From: Maris Lauva <>
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2020 02:02:52 +0000
Actually the Australian Raven does at time associate - I have seen it a couple of times here in Perth. I have heard it is the annual get together of the younger un paired birds. That is indeed how it seemed. I would have described it as a rolling scrimmage, moving progressively through the bush in Bold Park, with Birds pursuing each other in pairs and small groups but maintaining the overall group. No obvious signs of antagonistic behaviour. Seemed like more than 19.


From: Birding-Aus <> on behalf of Philip Veerman <>
Sent: Tuesday, 21 April 2020 9:48 AM
To: <>
Subject: [Birding-Aus] [LACoBirds] PANDEMIC

Some awkward comment on a global crisis. I had been waiting for an opportunity to write a message like this when I did see a reasonable size flock of ravens about 3 weeks ago whilst driving near home. I don’t know which species. I thought will I / won’t I make the pun. I am sort of surprised no one else has. So now the opportunity has arisen from the other hemisphere (the email bird chat line in Los Angeles California).




From: Philip Veerman [ Sent: Tuesday, 21 April, 2020 10:51 AM    To: Subject: RE: [LACoBirds] PANDEMIC


Ha Ha.


I have been thinking of writing almost the same message from home in Canberra, Australia. Trouble is we have two species of Corvus in Canberra. The Australian Raven almost never associates in flocks, so we would rarely get 19. The Little Raven (less common here and a migrant) typically moves in large flocks and so counting 19 (honestly) would be difficult.




From: [ On Behalf Of Irwin Woldman via      Sent: Tuesday, 21 April, 2020 7:03 AM        To:
Subject: [LACoBirds] PANDEMIC


Today I had a "murder" of crows fly over my 3rd floor condo unit. I counted and found 19 birds in that flock. Does this "CORVID 19" constitute another pandemic arising of avian origin?


Stay well, safe and keep laughing.


Irwin Woldman

Studio City




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