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wedgetail jail and fine

To: "Ross Macfarlane (TPG)" <>, "" <>
Subject: wedgetail jail and fine
From: Kim Sterelny <>
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2018 09:26:38 +0000
Let's hope they are charged, and treated more seriously. It would be pretty 
appalling if the only person to face legal sanction was the one who alerted the 
authorities (without insisting on immunity from prosecution first).


And yes, it is most unlikely he would be deported for this alone, and given 
that he is probably the least culpable, I am fine with that.

kim


Kim Sterelny, School of Philosophy, Research School of the Social Sciences, 
Australian National University, Acton, 0200, ACT, Australia
 or 

61-(0)2-6125-2886


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From: Birding-Aus <> on behalf of Ross 
Macfarlane (TPG) <>
Sent: Tuesday, 25 September 2018 6:41 PM
To: 
Subject: wedgetail jail and fine

Sometimes it's worth reading the article.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-09-24/man-poisoned-wedge-tailed-eagles-in-gi
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ppsland-jailed/10298426

"Department of Environment, Land, Water and Planning (DELWP) prosecutor
Chrisanthi Paganis told the Sale Magistrates' Court that Silvester alerted
authorities to the deaths in May 2018, one month after he stopped working at
the farm due to an argument with his boss, landowner John Auer.

Silvester provided investigators with two diaries detailing the methods used
and a hand-drawn map showing where the eagle carcasses were hidden and where
the chemicals were stored.

Silvester also named others involved.

The prosecutor told the court other people were being investigated over the
killings but had not been charged."

In other words, the person who's been convicted actually reported this
matter to the authorities. Had he not done so it may never have come to
light.

Re deportation: as a country we could do with being rather less reflexively
punitive about shipping people off-shore at the first available opportunity,
if I may say so.

Ross Macfarlane

-----Original Message-----
From: Birding-Aus <> On Behalf Of Philip
Veerman
Sent: Tuesday, 25 September 2018 4:52 PM
To: 
Subject: wedgetail jail and fine

It is great that this event has been taken up and prosecuted. So at least
things have improved. As recently as the 1970s many eagles were shot and the
remains would be tied up on fences along roads. In some grotesque display of
bravado maybe or even more dumb, a weird idea that eagles would see these as
a warning and vacate the area. Even under long and heavy such persecution
the species remained in reasonably strong numbers overall. What would also
be interesting to know is whether this mass killing of eagles had any
positive benefit whatever on lamb survival. I expect it had little if any
benefit. But the question is worth investigating. I assume that the poisoned
lambs were already dead...... To be honest I am surprised that one person
presumably in a limited are could be so destructive of a species like this
that presumably lives at a low population density.

Philip

-----Original Message-----
From: Birding-Aus  On Behalf Of
Ross Macfarlane (TPG)
Sent: Tuesday, 25 September, 2018 3:24 PM
To: 'michael hunter'; 
Subject: wedgetail jail and fine

There has actually been a fair bit of publicity about it, e.g. on the ABC,
Weekly Times and local papers, and various opinion pieces as well it:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-06-07/wedge-tailed-eagles-suspected-poisoned
-in-east-gippsland/9845124
https://www.weeklytimesnow.com.au/news/victoria/news-story/40c7b8d80f32ebc79
deaef0b6db1a0f0?nk=f33c876b60bcf8a5b645918eda0f4c3d-1537852780
https://theconversation.com/mass-slaughter-of-wedge-tailed-eagles-could-have
-australia-wide-consequences-98011
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/jun/07/more-than-100-wedge-tail
ed-eagles-found-dead-on-victorian-farm
etc.

-----Original Message-----
From: Birding-Aus <> On Behalf Of michael
hunter
Sent: Tuesday, 25 September 2018 1:39 PM
To: 
Subject: wedgetail jail and fine

The Sale magistrate is to be very highly commended for jailing Murray James
Silvester for slaughtering Wedge-tailed Eagles.  It is unlikely that
Silvester will kill native birds again.

As a criminal could he now be deported?

How much publicity did the magistrates decision attract ?  Apart from
Birding-aus I neither saw nor heard anything about it in the National media
or elsewhere. From the Conservation view the jailing decision ought to be
broadcast far and wide.  Much more so than the prolonged outcry over culling
six sharks in the Whitsundays. Wedgies are a much more visible and iconic
native than Tiger Sharks.

Like genital mutilation and other unsavoury practices a small number of
immigrants bring to Australia, shooting or otherwise killing our native
fauna warrants zero tolerance, in Public Opinion and the Courts. Not that
Australian born fauna killers are guiltless. Publicising the penalties would
help a lot to minimise the killing.

                                               Very Sincerely

                                                         Michael



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