thanks Jeff, and yes I should've noted the iris colour earlier but I didn't - I
got thrown by the angle of the bird's head/body giving it a small headed
appearance... they are so much easier when seen front-on when that midline of
yellow down the lower breast and belly shows on Graceful. also much easier to
tell apart when seen in the flesh too; overall size, movements, etc of Graceful
are far more reminiscent of a Dusky Honeyeater for eg...
I really like what you guys did in the Aust Bird Guide too with the gape line
stuff too...
cheers, martin cachard
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From: Jeff Davies <>
Sent: Friday, 27 July 2018 4:34 PM
To: 'martin cachard'; ;
Subject: last id - yellow spotted or graceful
Yes I also noticed the brown eye Martin and probably should have mentioned
it as well as it is diagnostic.
But I thought the gape line was the easiest to see feature for people to
latch onto in this photo and I consider it also diagnostic.
See page 387 of our Australian Bird Guide for a more detailed explanation,
we put a lot of effort into presenting the gapeline differences and I think
it works well in this photo.
Cheers Jeff.
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martin cachard
Sent: Friday, 27 July 2018 3:16 PM
To: ;
Subject: last id - yellow spotted or graceful
hi Jason, it's a shame you don't have any more pics of this bird, even poor
ones, as it could have helped... the brown iris has got me thinking now that
I was wrong , and that Jeff Davies was right, but without other pics it's
too tough to really be definitive I'm afraid...
cheers, martin cachard
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From: Birding-Aus <> on behalf of Jason
Polak <>
Sent: Thursday, 26 July 2018 2:19 AM
To:
Subject: last id - yellow spotted or graceful
Thanks all for the input!
Yeah, we kept jumping back and forth between the two.
@Martin: Sadly, we don't have a better image...it basically just landed
close by for a couple seconds, and then left.
@Tony: We didn't manage to hear the call.
So, it seems like 2 votes for graceful, 1 for yellow-spotted.
Ok, we definitely have to go back there now!
Jason
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