'Native' birds on the new $5 banknote

To: 'Denise Goodfellow' <>, 'Stephen Ambrose' <>
Subject: 'Native' birds on the new $5 banknote
From: Philip Veerman <>
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2016 00:00:38 +0000
I appreciate the value of being accurate in these things and have pushed the
issue in several cases before. But sometimes I have to laugh at us (and
myself) at being a bit too precious. And yes as it is clearly an Eastern
Spinebill they could have been closer to the truth on colours. But it is a
stylised representation.

The inaccuracy is hardly without precedent. I raise the question as to how
zoologically accurate and endemic are the fauna portrayed in this well known
emblem (extract from:

The Lion and the Unicorn are symbols of the United Kingdom. They are,
properly speaking, heraldic supporters appearing in the full Royal coat of
arms of the United Kingdom. The lion stands for England and the unicorn for
Scotland. The combination therefore dates back to the 1603 accession of
James I of England who was already James VI of Scotland. By extension, they
have also been used in the Coat of Arms of Canada since 1921.


-----Original Message-----
From: Birding-Aus  On Behalf Of
Denise Goodfellow
Sent: Wednesday, 13 April, 2016 12:23 PM
To: Stephen Ambrose
Cc: birding-aus
Subject: 'Native' birds on the new $5 banknote

Stephen, don’t tempt me!

Denise Lawungkurr  Goodfellow
PO Box 71
Darwin River, NT, Australia 0841
043 8650 835

PhD candidate, Southern Cross University, Lismore, NSW.

Founding Member: Ecotourism Australia
Nominated by Earthfoot for Condé Nast’s International  Ecotourism Award,

With every introduction of a plant or animal that goes feral this continent
becomes a little less unique, a little less Australian.

On 13 Apr 2016, at 10:40 am, Stephen Ambrose <> wrote:

> I also hope that the bird (and plant) species that are depicted
collectively across all the new bank notes represent different areas of the
continent, rather than just colourful species that occur in south-eastern or
eastern Australia.  The absence of "species" from Western Australia or the
Northern Territory, for instance, may fuel further calls for political
> Stephen Ambrose
> Ryde, NSW
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Birding-Aus  On Behalf
Of Peter Morgan
> Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2016 10:15 AM
> To: John Tongue
> Cc: birding-aus (E-mail)
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] 'Native' birds on the new $5 banknote
> The following from the RBA is not clear to me:
> <<The Bank has today (12 April) released images of the new $5 banknote
that will be issued into circulation from 1 September 2016. The images show
the basic design artwork of each side of the banknote.>>
> The first sentence suggests it is the final image.  The second says it is
the "basic design artwork", which suggests to me it is not the final
> The release also says that the flower and bird theme will follow through
other notes, so one hopes they get it right.
> Peter Morgan
> The conservation battle is never finally won; the development battle is.
>> On 13 Apr 2016, at 9:51 AM, John Tongue <> wrote:
>> No, I think what they’ve issued is the final design.
>>> On 13 Apr 2016, at 8:40 AM, Peter Morgan <> wrote:
>>> I think this is a preliminary design and yet to be finalised.  If so,
then hopefully this commentary will ensure a better depiction of the
>>> Peter Morgan

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