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Zanda?

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Subject: Zanda?
From: Noel Luff <>
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2016 21:31:01 +0000
The genus Zanda is only recognized in the BirdLife International tax list.
It is not recognized in Clements or IOC.

On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 10:36 PM, Mike Owen <> wrote:

> I have just been looking at my copy of White et al. (2011) and they do not
> appear to suggest that /Calyptorhynchus/ be separated into two separate
> genera but rather say their DNA work supports Schodde's (1997) recognition
> of the two subgenera - /C. (Calyptorhynchus)/ and /C. (Zanda)/ - on page
> 620, 2nd paragraph of the paper.
>
> So if the subsequent authors are suggesting the recognition of two
> separate genera that must be be their decision rather than one made by
> White et al.
>
> cheers,
>
> Mike Owen
>
>
>
> On 07-Jan-16 8:59 AM, Stephen Ambrose wrote:
>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> A quick look at the literature:
>>
>> Zanda was a subgenus of the genus Calyptorhynchus.  But DNA studies by
>> White et al. (2011) suggested that Zanda should be separated from
>> Calyptorhynchus and elevated to genus level. This classification was picked
>> up subsequently by del Hoyo & Collar (2014), who are not quoted by the IUCN
>> Red List of Threatened Species
>> http://dx.doi.org/10.2305/IUCN.UK.2012-1.RLTS.T22684739A38977158.en and
>> Winkler et al. (2015) (my copy also arrived in the post yesterday).
>>
>> References
>>
>> Del Hoyo, J. and Collar, N.J. (2014).  HBW and BirdLife International
>> Illustrated Checklist of the Birds of the World. Vol 1: Non-passerines
>> (Lynx Edicions, Barcelona).
>>
>> White, NE., Phillips, MJ., Gilbert, MTP., Alfaro-Nunez, A., Willerslev,
>> E., Mawsond, PR., Spencer, PBS. and Bunce, M. (2011).  The evolutionary
>> history of cockatoos (Aves: Psittaciformes: Cacatuidae).  Mol. Pylogenet.
>> Evol. 59(3): 615-622.
>>
>> Winkler, DW., Billerman, S.M. and Lovette, IJ (2015). Bird Families of
>> the World: An Invitation to the Spectacular Diversity of Birds (Lynx
>> Edicions, Barcelona).
>>
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Stephen
>>   Stephen Ambrose
>> Ryde, NSW
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Birding-Aus  On Behalf
>> Of John Leonard
>> Sent: Thursday, January 7, 2016 8:50 AM
>> To: 
>> Subject: [Birding-Aus] Zanda?
>>
>> I have just received my copy of the Bird Families of the World, from the
>> HBW people. Magnificent volume!
>>
>> Anyway, I see they use Zanda as the generic name for the Yellow-tailed
>> and two White-tailed Cockatoos.
>>
>> When did this happen? I'd like to know as it affects my online persona
>> (I'll have to become Zanda now, solemn and mournful, not noisy and
>> gregarious).
>>
>> 😀
>>
>> John Leonard
>>
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