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Zanda (a correction)?

To: 'John Leonard' <>
Subject: Zanda (a correction)?
From: Stephen Ambrose <>
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2016 00:25:51 +0000
Hi John,

I can't find one.  Jobling, JA (2010, Helm Dictionary of Scientific Bird Names) 
says there is no explanation, but it was first used by Mathews in 1913, and 
Richmond, CW (1917,  Proc. Of U.S. Nat Hist Mus 35: 583-655) claims that it is 
an Aboriginal name.

Stephen Ambrose
Ryde, NSW

-----Original Message-----
From: John Leonard  
Sent: Thursday, January 7, 2016 11:15 AM
To: Stephen Ambrose
Cc: 
Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Zanda (a correction)?

Thanks Stephen

Any info on what Zanda means? (Calyptorhynchus means 'hidden beak').

John Leonard


> On 7 Jan 2016, at 10:03 AM, Stephen Ambrose <> wrote:
> 
> Sorry, that should be:
> 
> This classification was picked up subsequently by del Hoyo & Collar (2014), 
> who ARE quoted by the IUCN Red List of Threatened Species ...
> 
> Cheers,
> Stephen
> 
> Stephen Ambrose
> Ryde, NSW
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stephen Ambrose  
> Sent: Thursday, January 7, 2016 10:00 AM
> To: 'John Leonard'; 
> Subject: RE: [Birding-Aus] Zanda?
> 
> Hi John,
> 
> A quick look at the literature:
> 
> Zanda was a subgenus of the genus Calyptorhynchus.  But DNA studies by White 
> et al. (2011) suggested that Zanda should be separated from Calyptorhynchus 
> and elevated to genus level. This classification was picked up subsequently 
> by del Hoyo & Collar (2014), who are not quoted by the IUCN Red List of 
> Threatened Species 
> http://dx.doi.org/10.2305/IUCN.UK.2012-1.RLTS.T22684739A38977158.en and 
> Winkler et al. (2015) (my copy also arrived in the post yesterday).
> 
> References
> 
> Del Hoyo, J. and Collar, N.J. (2014).  HBW and BirdLife International 
> Illustrated Checklist of the Birds of the World. Vol 1: Non-passerines (Lynx 
> Edicions, Barcelona).
> 
> White, NE., Phillips, MJ., Gilbert, MTP., Alfaro-Nunez, A., Willerslev, E., 
> Mawsond, PR., Spencer, PBS. and Bunce, M. (2011).  The evolutionary history 
> of cockatoos (Aves: Psittaciformes: Cacatuidae).  Mol. Pylogenet. Evol. 
> 59(3): 615-622.
> 
> Winkler, DW., Billerman, S.M. and Lovette, IJ (2015). Bird Families of the 
> World: An Invitation to the Spectacular Diversity of Birds (Lynx Edicions, 
> Barcelona).
> 
> 
> Kind regards,
> Stephen
> 
> Stephen Ambrose
> Ryde, NSW
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Birding-Aus  On Behalf Of 
> John Leonard
> Sent: Thursday, January 7, 2016 8:50 AM
> To: 
> Subject: [Birding-Aus] Zanda?
> 
> I have just received my copy of the Bird Families of the World, from the HBW 
> people. Magnificent volume!
> 
> Anyway, I see they use Zanda as the generic name for the Yellow-tailed and 
> two White-tailed Cockatoos.
> 
> When did this happen? I'd like to know as it affects my online persona (I'll 
> have to become Zanda now, solemn and mournful, not noisy and gregarious).
> 
> 😀
> 
> John Leonard
> 
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