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Zanda (a correction)?

To: Stephen Ambrose <>
Subject: Zanda (a correction)?
From: John Leonard <>
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2016 00:15:01 +0000
Thanks Stephen

Any info on what Zanda means? (Calyptorhynchus means 'hidden beak').

John Leonard


> On 7 Jan 2016, at 10:03 AM, Stephen Ambrose <> wrote:
> 
> Sorry, that should be:
> 
> This classification was picked up subsequently by del Hoyo & Collar (2014), 
> who ARE quoted by the IUCN Red List of Threatened Species ...
> 
> Cheers,
> Stephen
> 
> Stephen Ambrose
> Ryde, NSW
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stephen Ambrose  
> Sent: Thursday, January 7, 2016 10:00 AM
> To: 'John Leonard'; 
> Subject: RE: [Birding-Aus] Zanda?
> 
> Hi John,
> 
> A quick look at the literature:
> 
> Zanda was a subgenus of the genus Calyptorhynchus.  But DNA studies by White 
> et al. (2011) suggested that Zanda should be separated from Calyptorhynchus 
> and elevated to genus level. This classification was picked up subsequently 
> by del Hoyo & Collar (2014), who are not quoted by the IUCN Red List of 
> Threatened Species 
> http://dx.doi.org/10.2305/IUCN.UK.2012-1.RLTS.T22684739A38977158.en and 
> Winkler et al. (2015) (my copy also arrived in the post yesterday).
> 
> References
> 
> Del Hoyo, J. and Collar, N.J. (2014).  HBW and BirdLife International 
> Illustrated Checklist of the Birds of the World. Vol 1: Non-passerines (Lynx 
> Edicions, Barcelona).
> 
> White, NE., Phillips, MJ., Gilbert, MTP., Alfaro-Nunez, A., Willerslev, E., 
> Mawsond, PR., Spencer, PBS. and Bunce, M. (2011).  The evolutionary history 
> of cockatoos (Aves: Psittaciformes: Cacatuidae).  Mol. Pylogenet. Evol. 
> 59(3): 615-622.
> 
> Winkler, DW., Billerman, S.M. and Lovette, IJ (2015). Bird Families of the 
> World: An Invitation to the Spectacular Diversity of Birds (Lynx Edicions, 
> Barcelona).
> 
> 
> Kind regards,
> Stephen
> 
> Stephen Ambrose
> Ryde, NSW
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Birding-Aus  On Behalf Of 
> John Leonard
> Sent: Thursday, January 7, 2016 8:50 AM
> To: 
> Subject: [Birding-Aus] Zanda?
> 
> I have just received my copy of the Bird Families of the World, from the HBW 
> people. Magnificent volume!
> 
> Anyway, I see they use Zanda as the generic name for the Yellow-tailed and 
> two White-tailed Cockatoos.
> 
> When did this happen? I'd like to know as it affects my online persona (I'll 
> have to become Zanda now, solemn and mournful, not noisy and gregarious).
> 
> 😀
> 
> John Leonard
> 
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