On the positive side, it was a good exercise for the quarantine authorities,
allowing them to hone their systems for when some turkey decides that they want
a cute fox for a pet. There are enough of those on the mainland.
Carl Clifford
> On 10 Dec 2015, at 11:42 PM, David Clark <> wrote:
>
> Yes, the good news is that there are no foxes in Tassie!
>
> However, it is scandalous that $45M has been wasted and I will be very
> surprised if that doesn't have repercussions for the funding of other
> conservation projects.
>
> What puzzles me is who would benefit from the fraud or hoax?
>
> Cheers
>
> David
>
> On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 11:12 PM, Kim Sterelny <>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Dear All
>>
>> False alarms of this kind are likely to damage the credibility of the
>> environmental movement; there are plenty of well funded and highly
>> motivated individuals out there looking for ways of discrediting it; just
>> recall some of the very way climate change scientists have had their e-mail
>> accounts hacked into and quoted out of context to suggest malpractice.So
>> real malpractice, or even sloppy or alarmist practice, will be remembered,
>> exaggerated, and recycled. I think there has been some tendencies in the
>> past to use pretty doubtful "splitting" taxonomies to turn isolated
>> populations into supposed species, which were then more or less
>> automatically critically endangered. Given the kind of unfriendly vigilance
>> to which conservation movements are subjected, I think its wise to be
>> cautious, to not over-call dangers, and so on.
>>
>> That said: surely its great news if there are no foxes in Tasmania! The
>> place is full of small marsupials that would be at great risk, and so I am
>> delighted to know that they are safe from one major peril, at least
>>
>> Km
>>
>> Kim Sterelny, School of Philosophy, Research School of the Social
>> Sciences, Australian National University, Acton, 0200, ACT, Australia
>> or
>>
>> 61-(0)2-6125-2886
>>
>> ________________________________________
>> From: Birding-Aus <> on behalf of Ian
>> May <>
>> Sent: Thursday, 10 December 2015 9:46 PM
>> To: Birding-aus
>> Cc: Hunt, Greg (MP); Ivan Dean
>> Subject: [Birding-Aus] Tasmanian Fox Hoax or Fraud
>>
>> <>A recent review into the Tasmanian Fox eradication program has found
>> no evidence of foxes in Tasmania. There are calls for a thorough
>> Police investigation into this whole sorry saga.
>>
>> See
>>
>> http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-05-02/no-evidence-of-foxes-in-tasmania2c-report-slams-taskforce/5425266
>>
>> See also
>>
>> http://tasmaniantimes.com/index.php?/weblog/article/researchers-suspect-fox-evidence-fabrication-tasma/
>>
>>
>> http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-11-25/push-for-police-probe-into-claims-of-fake-fox-evidence-in-tas/6973554
>>
>> This disgraceful episode has irreparably damaged the credibility of the
>> environmental movement in Tasmania. There are many questions that need
>> answers before this one is put to bed. We should all feel cheated that
>> more than 45 million dollars has been wasted, probably at the expense of
>> genuine needs such as conservation and protection of Orange-bellied
>> Parrot etc.
>>
>> It is interesting to note that birding-aus probably got the first scoop
>> on this back in October 2002. At that time, it was interesting to
>> observe that Mr. Camby, the author of the report
>>
>> http://bioacoustics.cse.unsw.edu.au/archives/html/birding-aus/2002-10/msg00398.html
>> was howled down by some birding aus subscribers for suggesting that
>> there could be fraud at the heart of the Tasmanian Fox eradication program.
>>
>> This saga places a cloud of shame over the entire Tasmanian
>> environmental movement. It is very sad to see.
>>
>> Ian May
>> St Helens, Tasmania
>>
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