Hi all,
I subscribe to the theory the Victoria Police once had, "shoot first, ask 
questions later"..
I was in Jabiru in early 1988 and took a photo of a raptor. As the years 
passed, I often thought it might be a Red Goshawk but thought it was just my 
wishing tainting my memory. It wasn't until 1999 that I showed the slide to 
Greg Czechura and he confirmed it was a Red... I was stoked and had to go back 
and renumber my life list to fit it in the first 350 species :-)
That theory has also worked well for me on pelagics, as I am prone to 
seasickness... If I can photograph the bird, then I have seen it :-)
Regards
John
Yours in all things "green"
John Harris BASc, GDipEd
Director - Wildlife Experiences P/L
Principal Zoologist/Ecologist
Nature Photographer
Wildlife Guide
Croydon, Vic
0409 090 955
President, Field Naturalists Club of Victoria
www.fncv.org.au
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From: "Carl Clifford" <>
To: "Denise Goodfellow" <>
Cc: "birding-aus" <>, "David Robertson" 
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Subject: [Birding-Aus] Ticks
Date: Mon, May 11, 2015 15:51
I think that occurs on quite a few group tours, with the leaders collecting the 
individual sightings for their records, and some of the group just using the 
"master" list as their own sightings. Guess it is a matter of conscience.
Carl Clifford
> On 11 May 2015, at 1:31 pm, Denise Goodfellow <> 
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> Clients once told me of a fellow passenger on a pelagic trip.  As the guide 
> reeled off the names of the species, this fellow ticked them off his list, 
> without looking up!
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> Denise Lawungkurr  Goodfellow
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> becomes a little less unique, a little less Australian.
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>> On 11 May 2015, at 12:23 pm, Peter Shute <> wrote:
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>> That's not as silly as it sounds, if the client did actually see the bird 
>> but wasn't able to identify it, and was just making sure Tim was certain of 
>> the id. 
>> 
>> My OBP tick wouldn't be a tick if there hadn't been an expert there to tell 
>> me it wasn't a Blue-wing. Normally I'd want to id it myself, but I figure 
>> there aren't going to be many chances to try again, and it's not that much 
>> different to taking a photo and asking an expert later.
>> 
>> Peter Shute
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>>> -----Original Message-----
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>>> Subject: [Birding-Aus] Ticks
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>>> I remember the late Tim Fisher (of the Philippines) telling 
>>> me about a client who asked him (Tim) "Did you see that well 
>>> enough for me to tick it?"
>>> David Robertson
>>> Adelaide
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