Attachment came up for me .
-----Original Message-----
From: Birding-Aus On Behalf Of
Jeremy O'Wheel
Sent: Thursday, 10 July 2014 4:16 PM
To: Carl Clifford
Cc: Birding Aus
Subject: Neonicotinoids linked to recent fall in farmland
bird numbers
Attached, although Birding Aus people will not get the attachment. The
study was particularly looking at whether insectivorous birds were impacted
by the reduction of insects as a result of insecticides. So there's nothing
in the study to suggest that Neonictoninoids have any direct effect on
birds, just that they reduce their food by doing the things we know they do
(kill insects) (and quantifying that).
On 10 July 2014 16:21, Carl Clifford <> wrote:
> Not having read the paper in Nature referred to, I could not answer
> that, but with the paper appearing in Nature, I would think that the
> idea has some legs.
>
> Carl Clifford
>
> On 10 Jul 2014, at 15:25, "Jeremy O'Wheel" <> wrote:
>
> The study seems to have found that birds that eat insects are less
> likely to be found in areas that are sprayed with insecticides, and
> then the journalist has implied it could be a consequence of chemical,
> rather than just the food chain, but I don't see what evidence there is
for that.
>
> Jeremy
>
>
> On 10 July 2014 13:53, Carl Clifford <> wrote:
>
>> I wonder what the effects are in Australia? I also wonder, has anyone
>> been looking?
>>
>>
>> http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/jul/09/neonicotinoids-far
>> mland-birds
>>
>> Carl Clifford
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