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Mundane & useless threads

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Subject: Mundane & useless threads
From: Jude Latt <>
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 04:08:49 -0400 (EDT)
I am such a beginner in this world of birds ... 
but I love them.     And I'm very hard on myself at gaining a tick.
I've been 'watching' now since Feb 2000 and I've only managed 402 birds.
But I'm stoked at that.


I love this mailing list ...  I read everything, even though I understand little
when it comes to genetics and the like. Actually, I understand less than little.
But still I read in the hope that something sinks in.


I love it when people post there reports.
I learn so much from their blogs.
And as I'm an oldie .. and get to travel a bit now and then,
I so rely on people posting trip reports.   
Please, keep them coming.  I read them all.


Jude







-----Original Message-----
From: david taylor <>
To: Birding-Aus aus <>
Sent: Mon, Apr 15, 2013 8:33 pm
Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Mundane & useless threads


>   Paul Dodd wrote   "In fact, I was criticised for posting trip reports 
recently too"


If people like Paul Dodd and others stop posting trip reports and useful 
commentary on their birding adventures Birding-aus really wont be worth 
subscribing to!   How anyone could be critical of Paul ( and others) generous 
details on their trips is hard to fathom!

David Taylor



On 15/04/2013, at 8:20 AM, Paul Dodd wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> I thought I'd stay out of this conversation thread as I can't really abide 
another discussion on capitalisation and grammar - HOWEVER, when the 
conversation turned to bullying I felt that I had to participate.
> 
> I have seen many postings over the years that I think are, at the very least, 
rude - if not stepping over the line towards bullying - I won't give the 
precise 
examples here but they invariably occur around two topics - requests for 
assistance with ID, and requests for information/assistance regarding birding 
and birding locations, and generally these postings are from relative newcomers 
to the list. Oftentimes the replies are helpful and encouraging, but from 
time-to-time the replies are hostile. Replies to requests for ID suggesting 
that 
people have better things to do than substitute for field guides, for example.
> 
> I see any forum (and birding-aus is a forum) as a collaborative experience - 
where people should be able to post a request, or post a reply, without having 
any fear of being attacked. To be honest, I have tended to adopt the principle 
that I will post trip reports and other pieces of information, but not engage 
in 
the conversations because I don't want the grief. In fact, I was criticised for 
posting trip reports recently too, which makes me think that maybe I'll stop 
doing that too. I should point out that in my experience, much of the bullying 
and criticism is offline - which I find worrying as it is covert, and we'll 
never know the extent of it.
> 
> Paul Dodd
> Docklands, Victoria
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From:  
>  
On Behalf Of Robert Inglis
> Sent: Sunday, 14 April 2013 9:37 PM
> To: Birding-Aus
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Mundane & useless threads
> 
> Philip, (of Philip, Kylie, Joshua, Noah) if you feel I have bullied you in 
> any 
way and particularly by responding to your previous posting (which I believe 
was 
to ask for birding advice) by correcting your spelling and bird names please 
accept this public apology.
> I must admit I am completely unaware of how that could have happened and, if 
it did, I am truly sorry. 
> 
> There certainly is activity on BirdingAus from time to time which could 
> easily 
be construed as “bullying” and I have sometimes felt some of it was directed at 
me. 
> A lot of the threads on BirdingAus could easily be classified as “mundane & 
useless” depending on your point of view but that is not a characteristic 
exclusive to BirdingAus; it simply reflects the society we live in. 
> 
> Forums such as BirdingAus should be places where opinions are freely 
> expressed 
and argued but there is never any place for abuse and bullying.
> 
> Bob Inglis
> Sandstone Point
> Qld
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