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identified bird - information, I hope

To: Philip Veerman <>
Subject: identified bird - information, I hope
From: "Jeremy O'Wheel" <>
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2013 15:57:09 +1100
I would say it's definitely a Masked Gnatcatcher - other photos on the
internet are convincing.  I note too that many images have a blueness to
them.  It seems possible to me that somebody merely jacked up the
saturation to make the photo prettier, and then it was later misidentified.
 There are many copies of the image on the internet, so I assume the
company using the image in the first linking to it was just copying it from
somewhere else.

Jeremy


On 20 February 2013 15:21, Philip Veerman <> wrote:

> Thanks for that. It looked very close but I only compared two pictures. I
> did not look at Emperor FW photos on the net. I think though, I'm 60 / 40
> or
> 70 / 30 or even more, towards the better suggestion of a Masked
> Gnatcatcher,
> with all the grays shifted to blues, than my pretty good suggestion of an
> Emperor Fairy-wren. I don't know either species.
>
> I at least gave them the benefit of the doubt of having a bird in the same
> genus and region of the world. Astonishing why they would do that. As Basil
> Faulty would say, they "are from Barcelona." The real thing to do is to
> write to the company to ask what they did and why. They have a contact
> page.
> They cited the Birds in Backyards project, so why go to that effort of
> getting it wrong. It is weird. Perhaps one to ask the Gruen Planet.
>
>
>
> Philip
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Graff 
> Sent: Wednesday, 20 February 2013 2:11 PM
> To: ; 
> Subject: RE: [Birding-Aus] identified bird - information, I hope
>
>
> Hi Phil,
>
> Not that I would be anywhere near an expert on Emperor Fairy-wrens, but
> there seems to be numerous problems with that as an ID, crown is noticeably
> darker than throat in this bird, opposite shown in the few Emperor FW
> photos
> on the net (crown paler), black mask nowhere near as extensive (as you
> point
> out), overall blue colour of this bird is much paler, no black patch on the
> lower back........
>
> Don't think it's an Emperor
>
> Cheers,
> John
>
>
> > From: 
> > To: 
> > Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2013 13:46:00 +1100
> > Subject: [Birding-Aus] identified bird - information, I hope
> >
> > It looks genuine to me, just a wrong choice of species for the text. I
> > thought I remembered that bird and consulted my books. It looks a lot
> like
> > the Emperor Fairy-wren Malurus cyanocephalus from PNG. At least is seems
> > entirely consistent with the R Weatherly painting (page 59) in Richard
> > Schodde's The Fairy-Wrens book. The only difference is in the photo, the
> > black face mask is slightly smaller than in that painting, otherwise an
> > exact match. Why they would choose such an obscure species, when they
> could
> > easily choose what they say it is a mystery. Note they spell Sydney
> wrong.
>
> >
> > So quite some interpretive license calling it our bird.
> >
> > Philip
> > > On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 11:48 AM, Anthony Overs
> > > <
> > > >wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi everyone
> > > >
> > > > Another bird picture doing the rounds on blogs and Facebook. This
> > > > one is labelled as a Blue Fairy Wren of Australia. Any ideas as to
> > > > what species
> > > it
> > > > actually is??
> > > >
> > > > http://jackmarinokids.blogspot.com.au/2012/09/blue-fairy-wren.html
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > > Anthony
>
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