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Lesser Black-backed Gull in Broome

To: Dimitris Bertzeletos <>, Birding Australia <>, Mike Carter <>, rohan clarke <>, Richard Baxter <>, Jeff Davies <>
Subject: Lesser Black-backed Gull in Broome
From: Nikolas Haass <>
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2013 13:03:36 -0800 (PST)
Hi Dimitris et al.,

To my knowledge intermedius, graellsii and heuglini are very similar to each 
other regarding upperpart coloration. As I said earlier: Whilst I agree that 
the upperpart coloration is too dark for taimyrensis, it also doesn't look good 
for fuscus. A fresh fuscus is almost black with almost no contrast to the 
primary tips. A worn/bleached fuscus develops a brownish tinge to the 
upperparts. This is in contrast to the cold dark grey upperparts of the Broome 
bird. 
The jizz fits best heuglini. To me the bird looks too heavy, too long-legged, 
too short-winged, too big-headed and too large-billed for fuscus.
I agree with Jeff Davies that the primaries (p1-6 versus p7-10) as well as the 
secondaries are of two generations (initially I thought that all primaries were 
old). This interrupted moult is according to Martin Gottschling and Axel 
Mueller typical of three taxa: fuscus, heuglini and taimyrensis (apparently not 
for graellsii and intermedius - I need to check the literature).

So, taken everything together I would still say: L. h. heuglini, 3rd or 4th 
winter.

What is Klaus Malling Olsen's opinion on this bird?

Cheers,

Nikolas
 
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Nikolas Haass

Sydney, NSW


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From: Dimitris Bertzeletos <>
To: Birding Australia <> 
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 10:35 PM
Subject: Lesser Black-backed Gull in Broome
 

Brillian Pictures Rohan.

For me this bird is too dark to be Heuglins, with perhaps more fitting 
candidates being fuscus or intermedius... 

And then of course you have all the wonderful north hemisphere gull hybrid 
combinations...

All the best,

D.

> Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2013 20:16:22 +1100
> From: 
> To: 
> Subject: [Birding-Aus] Lesser Black-backed Gull in Broome
> 
> Hi All,
> The images of the Lesser Black-backed Gull in Broome, WA that Mike 
> Carter referred to have been posted here;
> 
> http://www.pbase.com/wildlifeimages/lesser_black_backed_gull
> 
> Photographically the bird was a bit of a milestone as it was the 750th 
> species that I have photographed in Australia and coincidentally, as 
> Adrian Boyle also contributes, is was the 800th 'Australian' species 
> represented on our website.
> 
> Cheers,
> Rohan
> 
> 
> On 21/01/2013 2:13 PM, Mike Carter wrote:
> > We (Rohan Clarke, Richard Baxter, Frank O'Connor and I) are back from 
> > Broome where the Lesser Black-backed Gull was easily found and viewed. 
> > While we were there ca. 1,000 photos were taken, nine of those are 
> > already in circulation and will no doubt, soon be posted  
> > http://www.pbase.com/wildlifeimages but I did not find them when I 
> > looked this morning. Virtually all aspects are depicted.
> 
> -- 
> Rohan Clarke
> www.wildlifeimages.com.au
> 
> Latest updates
> http://www.pbase.com/wildlifeimages/root&view=recent
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