And IOC splits these - *natalis *as Common ED (*Chalcophaps
indica*Christmas Island),
*longirostris *(*C. longirostris* Pacific ED) in Nth Aus and then
*rogersi *(also
Pacific ED) in E Aus and Lord Howe and Norfolk - which would seem to
correspond to the Eremaea (Clements?) *chrysochlora*?
On 2 November 2012 16:46, Alastair Smith <> wrote:
> Carl,
> To add to your Australian lists of references, on Eremaea we have:
>
>
> natalis Christmas Island (Indian Ocean)
> chrysochlora E Lesser Sundas, e Australia, New Guinea and adj. islands
> (which I presume includes LHI)
> longirostris N Australia (n Western Australia and Northern Territory)
>
> Regards
> Alastair
>
> > Hi Birders,
> >
> >
> >
> > There appear to be inconsistencies in the naming of Pacific Emerald Dove
> and
> > Common Emerald Dove. At least some birders have adopted the name Pacific
> > (Chalcophaps longirostris) for birds from eastern Australia and Lord Howe
> > Island etc, and Common (Chalcophaps indica) for birds from the Top End.
> This
> > would seem to be a logical thing to do. However, according to both bird
> > guide books Pizzey & Knight and Simpson & Day, the former race
> longirostris
> > applies to birds from the Top End. If so, the abovementioned naming
> practice
> > would seem to be back to front.
> >
> >
> >
> > So, has someone got something wrong? Was it the guide books, who some
> years
> > ago incorrectly reversed the locations of the 2 dove races? Or was it the
> > IOC, who accidentally ascribed the names Pacific and Common to the wrong
> > species? Certainly, the name Pacific should logically apply to the
> species
> > that inhabits the Pacific coast of Australia and adjacent islands.
> >
> >
> >
> > A summary of some public information is set out below:
> >
> >
> >
> > P&K; S&D
> >
> > Chalcophaps indica - race rogersi (formerly chrysochlora) - eastern
> > Australia, Lord Howe Is - picture shows plain green back.
> >
> > Chalcophaps indica - race longirostris - Kimberley & Top End - picture
> shows
> > grey & white bars on back.
> >
> >
> >
> > IOC Checklist 3.1
> >
> > 4859. Common Emerald Dove - Chalcophaps indica - OR, AU - widespread.
> >
> > 4866. Pacific Emerald Dove - Chalcophaps longirostris - AU -
> Australasia.
> >
> >
> >
> > Birding for Devils
> >
> > 366 - 14 Feb - Common Emerald Dove - Christmas Island
> >
> > 130 - 19 Jan - Pacific Emerald Dove - Lake Eacham, Qld
> >
> >
> >
> > M Roderick on B.Aus
> >
> > re: Emerald Doves, but as far as I understand it C. indica ("Common")
> occurs
> > in the Top End and Kimberley and this species also ranges into SE Asia.
> > whereas C. longirostris ("Pacific") is the one found on the East Coast of
> > Australia and Pacific Islands (including Lord Howe). C. natalis (from
> > Christmas Island) is retained as a subspecies of (presumably) C. indica.
> >
> >
> >
> > Hoping that someone out there can bring all this to the attention of
> those
> > in power.
> >
> >
> >
> > Carl Weber
> >
> >
> >
> > If I could tick both species I wouldn't be so concerned, but as I can
> only
> > tick one, I do need to know which one.
> >
> >
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