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Red Goshawk harrassment

To: Peter Shute <>
Subject: Red Goshawk harrassment
From: Richard Baxter <>
Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 13:06:47 +1000
Steve, Shirley, Denise and others,
 
I'm struggling to make the connection with a group of 30-40 birders camped near 
a Red Gos nest in NT, obviously on some kind of birding tour through the NT, 
with twitching.  It appears that every time someone disturbs a bird, they're 
labelled a inconsiderate twitcher.  I wonder if asked, how many people in that 
group would call themselves twitchers or actually ARE twitchers?

Our scientific community traps, mist nets, tags, bands, handles, takes blood 
samples, cannon nets, radio tags, egg collects, shoots and generally disturbs 
more birds in any week of the year than all Australia's twitchers combined over 
the last 100years!

Mmmmmm!

Cheers 
Richard



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On 17/08/2012, at 10:37 AM, Peter Shute <> wrote:

> Maybe, but when people want close photos of raptors, they seem to build a 
> tower with a hide on top, and wait for the birds to get used to it. Surely 
> climbing the tree would just result in the birds flying away and not coming 
> back till you're gone, if ever.
> 
> Peter Shute
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: John Tongue 
>> Sent: Friday, 17 August 2012 9:52 AM
>> To: Peter Shute
>> Cc: 'Denise Goodfellow'; Birding Aus
>> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Red Goshawk harrassment
>> 
>> Or over-zealous photographer??
>> 
>> John Tongue
>> Ulverstone, Tas.
>> 
>> On 17/08/2012, at 9:24 AM, Peter Shute wrote:
>> 
>>> Climbing the tree doesn't sound like normal birder bad behaviour. That
>> sounds more like an egg collector.
>>> 
>>> Peter Shute
>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From:  [birding-aus-
>>>>  On Behalf Of Denise Goodfellow
>>>> Sent: Friday, 17 August 2012 7:43 AM
>>>> To: Birding Aus
>>>> Subject: [Birding-Aus] Red Goshawk harrassment
>>>> 
>>>> While in Mataranka recently I heard about the behaviour of some
>> birders
>>>> towards the Red Goshawk near Bitter Springs.  Some had climbed the
>> fence
>>>> into private property and one, according to the proprietor of the
>> nearby
>>>> caravan park , had even climbed the tree in which the bird nested.
>>>> 
>>>> Several other birders (thirty or forty according to the proprietor)
>> had
>>>> camped outside their property opposite the nesting tree.
>>>> That year, according to the proprietor, the birds didn't raise any
>>>> young.
>>>> 
>>>> Some years ago I warned birders of the ramifications of bad behaviour
>> re
>>>> entry to the Leanyer Sewage Ponds.  The result was that access to the
>>>> ponds
>>>> was tightened considerably.
>>>> 
>>>> The goshawks have now shifted their nest well away from the road.  If
>>>> they
>>>> shift it again then the bird may well be out of sight of visiting
>>>> birders,
>>>> and they'll be dependent on the goodwill of the owner of that
>> property
>>>> to
>>>> let them in.  I think that reserve of goodwill may be wearing thin.
>>>> 
>>>> Denise Lawungkurr Goodfellow
>>>> 1/7 Songlark Street,
>>>> Bakewell, NT 0832
>>>> 043 8650 835
>>>> 
>>>> PhD candidate, SCU
>>>> Vice-chair, Wildlife Tourism Australia
>>>> Nominated for the Condé Nast international ecotourism award, 2004 by
>> the
>>>> renowned American website, Earthfoot.
>>>> Wildlife Adviser, BBC¹s ŒDeadly 60¹
>>>> 
>>>> Birds of Australia's Top End and Quiet Snake Dreaming available on
>>>> amazon.com
>>>> A second edition of Fauna of Australia¹s Top End used by the
>> University
>>>> of
>>>> NSW as a text for 12 years is now under preparation.
>>>> 
>>>> 'It gave me huge insight into the lives' of Aboriginal Australians¹,
>>>> Jonathon Franzen, American author, birder, conservationist (August,
>>>> 2011)
>>>> on Quiet Snake Dreaming.
>>>> 
>>>> www.denisegoodfellow.com ( to be launched again soon).
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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