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Hunters in NSW National Parks to be unsupervised

To: David & Liz Parker <>
Subject: Hunters in NSW National Parks to be unsupervised
From: Carl Clifford <>
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 18:28:11 +1000
I spent several years living in the French Pyrenees part time. We soon learned 
not to go into the woods during hunting season. Many hunters seemed to like a 
variety of liquid refreshments with lunch, including wine, beer and pastis. The 
number of rounds heard echoing down from the hills, particularly in deer 
season, tended to increase greatly as the hunters let fly with their 
post-prandial discharges. I don't imagine that our own happy little nimrods 
would be much more temperate.

Carl Clifford

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On 10/07/2012, at 18:09, "David & Liz Parker" <> wrote:

> NSW is not the first State to allow hunters in parks, this is already being
> done in South Australia and Victoria. 
> 
> I have been an unsuspecting birdwatcher in Chiltern when the calls of dogs
> followed by the marching army of fox hunters has descended the slope after
> passing over the ridge. This was not a fun experience.  Hunting also takes
> place in the north east targeting deer, the sunset country targeting goats
> (as well as pigs and whatever else) and yes, of course, the typical duck
> hunting which I have naively experienced by accident when bird watching at
> McLeod's Morass in Gippsland and Lake Murphy near Kerang. Clearly I needed
> to select my weekends better.
> 
> And as for no duck season in NSW, this is not really the case as we all know
> licenced duck hunting already occurs on areas which such as rice fields and
> some other artificial water bodies. 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: 
>  On Behalf Of Dave Torr
> Sent: Monday, 9 July 2012 1:53 PM
> To: Carl Clifford
> Cc: Birding-Aus Aus
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Hunters in NSW National Parks to be unsupervised
> 
> At the moment we have no shooters party MPs - but both Labor and Liberal
> governments have endorsed duck hunting here despite the opinion polls and
> lobbying. Given the environmental record of the current Liberal mob (even
> worse than Labor!) I would not be surprised if they seized on something like
> this to appeal to a few more rednecks - they have a VERY slim majority to
> defend at the next election.
> 
> On 9 July 2012 13:51, Carl Clifford <> wrote:
> 
>> If the Victorian Gov. is entirely dependent on the good graces of a 
>> shooters lobby to enable legislation, I would say, very soon. It looks 
>> like a duck season will return to NSW next year, according to what I 
>> hear out of Orange, from whence the NSW Game Council issues it's 
>> decrees. Now that the Shooters and Fishers Party has a taste of blood 
>> in NSW, they will be going for what they can get nation wide.
>> 
>> Carl Clifford
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>> On 09/07/2012, at 11:37, Dave Torr <> wrote:
>> 
>> So only get shot if you are in a marginal seat would seem to be the 
>> best policy?
>> 
>> I wonder how long before our wonderful Victorian Govt takes up this 
>> great idea???
>> 
>> On 9 July 2012 11:14, Carl Clifford <> wrote:
>> 
>>> Dear All,
>>> 
>>> The NSW Shooters and Fishers party now claims that hunters will be 
>>> shooting in National Parks unsupervised and that parks will not be 
>>> closed while hunting is taking place. See
>>> http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-07-09/fears-of-unsupervised-nsw-natio
>>> nal-parks-hunting/4118214
>>> 
>>> I wonder how many non-hunters being accidentally shot it will take, 
>>> before this excellent bit of policy is reversed. I suppose that 
>>> depends on what electorate the victim comes from.
>>> 
>>> Carl Clifford
>>> 
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