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Using a people??? for Night Parrots

To: Jeff Davies <>
Subject: Using a people??? for Night Parrots
From: Carl Clifford <>
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 19:44:47 +1000
Add hock reports by locals? I think the locals would tell you anything if you 
add enough hock.

Cheers,

Carl Clifford


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On 06/06/2012, at 18:50, "Jeff Davies" <> wrote:

> Dion has made a good suggestion and it has already been discussed between
> myself and friends as being something we think would be worth investigating,
> not that I have any power or authority over any of this actually happening.
> Probably a good reason why the next dead Night Parrot should be just freeze
> dried rather than boraxed.
> All of the literature leaves me with a strong impression that Night Parrot
> is almost impossible to flush when secreted away during daylight hours,
> unless fire is an option. 
> I also can find no evidence Night parrot is genuinely nomadic, it would
> certainly be dispersive after good times and possibly shift around locally
> within a region. We know they have been in the region of Boulia and
> Diamantina for a couple of decades and add hock possible reports by locals
> would suggest they have always been there. Is scarlet-chested Parrot really
> nomadic? 
> 
> Cheers Jeff.
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> -----Original Message-----
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>  On Behalf Of robert morris
> Sent: Wednesday, 6 June 2012 4:53 PM
> To: dion hobcroft; birding aus
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Using a people??? for Night Parrots
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> Hi Dion
> An interesting idea! But I don't rate your chances getting that one up and
> running!
> But before we go down that route (even hypothetically) - has anyone (e.g.
> the National Nigh Parrot Network) actually really tried to coordinate a
> large number of birders on a roster to systematically survey likely areas?
> For the last 3 years for example - Western Qld has had a lot of rain.
> Conditions must be as good now as they ever have been (ignoring the pest
> issues). But is anyone actually looking? A few minutes of research on
> habitats, rainfall and historic records and likely areas could be
> identified. I think a lot of people would respond and assist.
> I genuinely believe that areas will currently exist under the recent wet
> conditions (and I mean the last 3-4 years of above average rainfalls) where
> there are night parrots breeding. We just do not interact with them
> geographically and temporally. 
> It would be good if someone would respond and let us know about the National
> Night Parrot Network, their remit, plans etc. Could birdwatcher power be
> captured to actually help rediscovered Night Parrots at a time they may be
> on the up? Are we about to miss this opportunity?
> All I hear is silence - perhaps birders have to organise this themselves?
> Rob Morris 
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> Brisbane, Australia 
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>> Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 15:59:18 +1000
>> Subject: [Birding-Aus] Using a dog for Night Parrots
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>> I have often wondered why no-one has trained a dog to search for Night 
>> Parrot. Get them tracking Ground Parrots and then move to the desert 
>> with a muzzle (to avoid eating 1080 baits and Night Parrots). Our Kiwi 
>> friends use this strategy successfully for finding Kakapo.
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