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New Grasswren Species

To: Nikolas Haass <>
Subject: New Grasswren Species
From: Dave Torr <>
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2011 20:38:48 +1100
How does one define an "official" list? I guess if most birders accept it
(and Tony Palliser's site is leading the way) it will happen. Since there
is unlikely to be an update to C&B 2008 it makes sense that Aus adopts an
internationally accepted list and IOC seems as good as any. I assume that
BirdLife Australia will have to take a position at some stage!

On 21 November 2011 19:33, Nikolas Haass <> wrote:

> Hi Richard, Tony et al.
>
> Good stuff, congrats on your new graswren!
> Just a quick note on the "update": The list on Tony's website you are
> referring to is based on IOC, whereas the 2008 list is based on Christidis
> & Boles (2008). Is the 2011 IOC-based list now the "official" Australia
> list?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Nikolas
>
>
> ----------------
> Nikolas Haass
> 
> Sydney, NSW
>
>
> ________________________________
>  From: Richard Baxter <>
> To: birding-aus <>
> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 7:19 PM
> Subject: [Birding-Aus] New Grasswren Species
>
> Hello all,
>             With the recent release of the new 2011 Australian Birdlist,
> which includes several updates from the 2008 list, I found myself needing
> another grasswren.  The newly split Thick-billed
> GrasswrenAmytornismodestus( Gawler Ranges SA etc).
>
> I'd only previously seenA textilis, which is now called Western Grasswren
> from Shark Bay, Monkey Mia etc.
>
> Having a couple days spare after seeing the Hoopoe in Broome I decided to
> head down to Mt Ive Station in the Gawler Ranges.  Mt Ive is about seven
> hours drive from Adelaide Airport and with dry roads can be reached with a
> 2WD or SUV quite easily.
>
> Birdlife in general wasn't all that abundant, with most of the species
> seen at the station visible on the drive in.  Despite the general lack of
> birds, the Grasswren were plentiful.  I stayed in the stone cottage and had
> seen modestuswithin minutes of arriving and within 100m of my
> accommodation.  I walked down the side of the main dam, adjacent to the
> runway.  At the back of the dam wall there was a depression, which although
> dry, obviously often holds water.  A quick squeak and out popped three
> grasswren.
>
> The other species on the property and also close to the accommodation is
> the A.m.pedleri sub species of Short-tailed Grasswren.   To see this I
> parked at the base of Mt-Ive and walked straight up the hill to the aerial.
>  I saw two birds on the way up and a further three on the top.  Again, very
> easy to see.
>
> This ssp is very different in appearance to the Flinder's Ranges race.
>
> Note: The new 2011 Australian Birdlist download Excel version is on Tony
> Palliser's Birder's Total webpage.
>
> Cheers
> Richard Baxter
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